[FNZ] Super Role Madness Pokemon: I choose you!
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I wish you had picked Orca to duel. I don't think anyone outside of Flower would even consider voting Pot Goblin over you, and I'm not as sure as some people that he is actually scum.
Duelling Orca could have been much more informative, not just in terms of votes, but also in how the rest of the player list selects new wagons today if Orca flips scum earlier than lynch.
But what's done is done.
Duelling Orca could have been much more informative, not just in terms of votes, but also in how the rest of the player list selects new wagons today if Orca flips scum earlier than lynch.
But what's done is done.
My Rej spew analysis. I Waited a little before looking at it so that my eye would be fresher. It's more informative than I was expecting.
Given that Rej had been sucking up to Alexis all Day 1, and that York was not actually "policy voting" Alexis, I think York is mildly spewed not-paired with Rej from this interaction. In the second quote, Rej doesn't even read York's statement correctly. It's just a reason to unvote to make it look like reconsidering.
This interaction unpairs ginger with Rej, though the stronger element of that comes from ginger, who questions that validity of Rej giving Juliet a pat on the head for some reads that are very surface level and thread-temperature. Scum-ginger would not call out scum-Rej like this, given how Rej was already a low game presence and starting to accrue some suspicion.
I want to say this is a slightly good look for Relo as well, because Rej uses that same sort of "buddying" language on Reloaded as he does on Alexis. Not as strong a read though, because I think this is literally the first time Rej mentions him. I suspect this is part of the "fake lack of information" facade that I pointed out yesterday.
I remember seeing this post but not thinking much of it at the time, however, the full-on shade of me in the first line should be fairly clearing, and I actually think this does fairly spew Juliet town as well, because his treatment of her was like subtle encouragement in her suspicion of me - this more likely comes from scum-on-town than scum-on-scum signal boosting.
Another gingerbread unpairing comment here.
An unpairing read, particularly from Jan's side of the conversation.
This is also a slightly good look for Ratchet. "Just tell me who to vote for" sounds like the appeasement behaviour gingerbread spoke of previously. It sounds like Rej is approaching Ratchet from the position of knowing he's town.
It's weird that Rej says he hasn't read anything from Crying, because just a few posts earlier, he'd dropped a naked vote on Crying. So I think this looks mildly unpairing.
Another post in favour of Reloaded.
These players are probably actually town.
Conclusions:
Naomi/Melkor, Jan, York, Crying, Juliet, gingerbread, me: town from spew
Reloaded, Flower, Ratchet: probably town from spew, but with less confidence from me
Given that Rej had been sucking up to Alexis all Day 1, and that York was not actually "policy voting" Alexis, I think York is mildly spewed not-paired with Rej from this interaction. In the second quote, Rej doesn't even read York's statement correctly. It's just a reason to unvote to make it look like reconsidering.
This interaction unpairs ginger with Rej, though the stronger element of that comes from ginger, who questions that validity of Rej giving Juliet a pat on the head for some reads that are very surface level and thread-temperature. Scum-ginger would not call out scum-Rej like this, given how Rej was already a low game presence and starting to accrue some suspicion.
I want to say this is a slightly good look for Relo as well, because Rej uses that same sort of "buddying" language on Reloaded as he does on Alexis. Not as strong a read though, because I think this is literally the first time Rej mentions him. I suspect this is part of the "fake lack of information" facade that I pointed out yesterday.
I remember seeing this post but not thinking much of it at the time, however, the full-on shade of me in the first line should be fairly clearing, and I actually think this does fairly spew Juliet town as well, because his treatment of her was like subtle encouragement in her suspicion of me - this more likely comes from scum-on-town than scum-on-scum signal boosting.
Another gingerbread unpairing comment here.
An unpairing read, particularly from Jan's side of the conversation.
This is also a slightly good look for Ratchet. "Just tell me who to vote for" sounds like the appeasement behaviour gingerbread spoke of previously. It sounds like Rej is approaching Ratchet from the position of knowing he's town.
It's weird that Rej says he hasn't read anything from Crying, because just a few posts earlier, he'd dropped a naked vote on Crying. So I think this looks mildly unpairing.
Another post in favour of Reloaded.
These players are probably actually town.
Conclusions:
Naomi/Melkor, Jan, York, Crying, Juliet, gingerbread, me: town from spew
Reloaded, Flower, Ratchet: probably town from spew, but with less confidence from me
I give this post a town-lean. Yoho not only asked Naomi for reads, but followed up on it, disagreed with her reasoning somewhat, but still felt she was trying to solve from a town perspective. I feel there could be easier ways to "town-read" Naomi for scum-Yoho here.
I think we're probably still waiting for the "better reads based off actions than thread play"... I partly want to scum-read this part of the post, because I can theoretically see it as pre-emptive excusing of either bad-reads or non-existent reads. But I'm not sure how likely scum-Yoho would be to post this out loud?
His read on Charlie comes across as a little wary, and I've seen others express some wariness towards him at this stage, so I feel like this is probably a valid thought to have at the point this was made.
The read on me is 'meh' in the sense that it's a macro mechanics read. "Some scum do this" also implies "some scum don't do this" and is basically a slightly more wordy way of saying "I don't know". I would think worse of this post, but several people have already implied they believed my posting style to be "just walls, all walls, plenty o' walls" so I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt here.
This post is fine.
Now, this is an interesting post. I generally don't look for "pairing" reads in unflipped dichotomies, because I believe that's a reason many towns become tunnelled and "needing" a flip to prove something. But as the first post I've found in Yoho's ISO that actually seems to pique his interest, I would say that if Juliet ever flips scum, I would probably look to Yoho next (and vice versa). The very specific focus on *what exactly* PB finds scummy about Juliet is a curiosity to me.
RippedCal/Yoho not paired.
I think this is a decent post. Yoho doesn't attempt to fake reads where he doesn't have them, but chooses strategically if he is forced. It should be noted that this is before Goblin claimed his role, so if Goblin is scum then Yoho fairly spewed town.
I'd need to check the vote count at this stage, but I do vaguely recall seeing some votes on Cal that died away.
This is the first post of Yoho that I don't really like. It reminds me of Rej's projected ignorance.
I think the consensus at this time was that Alexis was thread-spewed so this post doesn't really do much for me, especially since Yoho could've looked at Watson's ISO himself.
And again, another post that doesn't do much for me. This is an analysis of the AM wagon, bittersweet asked Yoho to give his thoughts on it (I need to check whether he followed up on any of this). Overall the takes are very non-committal.
A red-flip on Yoho would spew Crying town.
This is very blah. But despite the blah-ness, I think it's slightly towny. It would be easy for scum to take thread-temperature and call me town at this stage. Being so blah invites scrutiny.
I can't tell whether this lack of effort approach is scummy, or just how Yoho plays. A very quick ISO of both Juliet and Shui would've told him whether either of those had posted since the start of the phase. On the scummy side of the argument I can see it being a way to find a way to engage with others by asking for thoughts, which is a potentially good way of making oneself sound relevant.
This is an interesting post because earlier, Yoho had said this about Polar:
So asking Crying if Polar stands out, whilst also previously noting that Polar did absolutely nothing to appear like his normal town-self, rings quite hollow.
I could see this as being potential scum/scum with Yoho/Polar, I'll need to check Polar ISO for interactions/mentions of Yoho if this actually becomes a thing (and please note this, in case I die and can't do it myself)
Hmm... no real thoughts on whether this AI or not, but I'm noting it to clear Juliet if Yoho flips red. Also I need to check timing on any votes Yoho made on Rej, in light of this.
(I can't actually see any D2 votes from Yoho in the EoD vote count...)
I have to go out shortly so will need to finish my ISO of Yoho here. I was hoping to find enough cause to move Yoho up to a town read, and while I did start out thinking his posts were looking okay, there are some that are giving me serious pause now that we have the info on several players. So Yoho stays in null for now, and I'll pick the ISO up again later.
I think we're probably still waiting for the "better reads based off actions than thread play"... I partly want to scum-read this part of the post, because I can theoretically see it as pre-emptive excusing of either bad-reads or non-existent reads. But I'm not sure how likely scum-Yoho would be to post this out loud?
His read on Charlie comes across as a little wary, and I've seen others express some wariness towards him at this stage, so I feel like this is probably a valid thought to have at the point this was made.
The read on me is 'meh' in the sense that it's a macro mechanics read. "Some scum do this" also implies "some scum don't do this" and is basically a slightly more wordy way of saying "I don't know". I would think worse of this post, but several people have already implied they believed my posting style to be "just walls, all walls, plenty o' walls" so I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt here.
This post is fine.
Now, this is an interesting post. I generally don't look for "pairing" reads in unflipped dichotomies, because I believe that's a reason many towns become tunnelled and "needing" a flip to prove something. But as the first post I've found in Yoho's ISO that actually seems to pique his interest, I would say that if Juliet ever flips scum, I would probably look to Yoho next (and vice versa). The very specific focus on *what exactly* PB finds scummy about Juliet is a curiosity to me.
RippedCal/Yoho not paired.
I think this is a decent post. Yoho doesn't attempt to fake reads where he doesn't have them, but chooses strategically if he is forced. It should be noted that this is before Goblin claimed his role, so if Goblin is scum then Yoho fairly spewed town.
I'd need to check the vote count at this stage, but I do vaguely recall seeing some votes on Cal that died away.
This is the first post of Yoho that I don't really like. It reminds me of Rej's projected ignorance.
I think the consensus at this time was that Alexis was thread-spewed so this post doesn't really do much for me, especially since Yoho could've looked at Watson's ISO himself.
And again, another post that doesn't do much for me. This is an analysis of the AM wagon, bittersweet asked Yoho to give his thoughts on it (I need to check whether he followed up on any of this). Overall the takes are very non-committal.
A red-flip on Yoho would spew Crying town.
This is very blah. But despite the blah-ness, I think it's slightly towny. It would be easy for scum to take thread-temperature and call me town at this stage. Being so blah invites scrutiny.
I can't tell whether this lack of effort approach is scummy, or just how Yoho plays. A very quick ISO of both Juliet and Shui would've told him whether either of those had posted since the start of the phase. On the scummy side of the argument I can see it being a way to find a way to engage with others by asking for thoughts, which is a potentially good way of making oneself sound relevant.
This is an interesting post because earlier, Yoho had said this about Polar:
So asking Crying if Polar stands out, whilst also previously noting that Polar did absolutely nothing to appear like his normal town-self, rings quite hollow.
I could see this as being potential scum/scum with Yoho/Polar, I'll need to check Polar ISO for interactions/mentions of Yoho if this actually becomes a thing (and please note this, in case I die and can't do it myself)
Hmm... no real thoughts on whether this AI or not, but I'm noting it to clear Juliet if Yoho flips red. Also I need to check timing on any votes Yoho made on Rej, in light of this.
(I can't actually see any D2 votes from Yoho in the EoD vote count...)
I have to go out shortly so will need to finish my ISO of Yoho here. I was hoping to find enough cause to move Yoho up to a town read, and while I did start out thinking his posts were looking okay, there are some that are giving me serious pause now that we have the info on several players. So Yoho stays in null for now, and I'll pick the ISO up again later.
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