[FNZ] Super Role Madness Pokemon: I choose you!

[Jan]

Pot is someone who would be usually calm in that situation regardless of alignment i feel though.

You townread Pot more than Anime Man nów? I am not convinced by that choice of duel target.

I disliked the duel target a lot.

If pot is town, then this is a great way to get him out instead of a lot of other slots.
(If I am wrong and pot is scum, then great of Animeman)

But there are 5-10 slots I would have duelled instead of pot, and going for a potential protective role instead of any other Poe target is a red flag to me.
Pot was not gonna die today and would have gotten another chance to confirm himself if not for this duel.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I'm a little confused about the convoluted way in which Shui comes to read Alexis as town here. Why would Alexis, as scum, list the strongest players listed here as scum, if they were part of the same scum team?



This feels a bit... wacky? I can understand being glad to be able to town-read a player as unique as Alexis. So overall a slight good look here?



The reasoning for this vote is quite amusing. Feels serious-but-not-serious. Kind of off-beat. I don't know whether it's AI.



(said to Flower)

The only thing that gives me pause here is the phrase of "still don't town read you", because I don't recall it being much of a discussion point between Shui/Flower before now. It feels almost like a conversation has been skipped, if that makes sense?



I actually get a little town-feel from this response. I don't know whether Shui, as scum, would feel compelled to defend himself against gingerbread's question, but Shui's response felt natural. I'm not sure most people would agree with me here.





(regarding Hayumi)




I think the way Shui approached ginger's post about Shui/Ratchet/Hayumi is +town. Scum-Shui would have little reason to clear town-Ratchet when he could just push both Ratchet *and* Hayumi.



Doesn't accept an easy town-read.



I like the tone.



(to Jan, regarding having one of his abilities destroyed)

This is an interesting question because from memory I thought that Jan was pro-Shui (or at least got the impression Jan was cheerleading him a little... I'll have to go back and reread their interactions from Jan's POV)



Again, I like the tone, but I'd prefer players not be annihilated post-game as that sounds rather permanent, if I'm honest.

I'm going to finish my read-up of Shui here for now because I also want to review bittersweet plus the Jan/Shui interactions from the Jan side of things, as to why he targeted Shui for a 'destroy ability' action.

And yes @Flower the 503 errors just as I began to ISO were a considerable annoyance.

Overall I think that Shui's posts are ~fine. They don't scream 'top town' to me, but they do seem prodding in good places and fairly consistent in the things he is prodding at. So I would take Shui off the table for lynch today, and just keep reviewing daily.

Okay, looks more like town Shu. @Flower do you remember if Nibel has such confident tone as scum.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

I disliked the duel target a lot.

If pot is town, then this is a great way to get him out instead of a lot of other slots.
(If I am wrong and pot is scum, then great of Animeman)

But there are 5-10 slots I would have duelled instead of pot, and going for a potential protective role instead of any other Poe target is a red flag to me.
Pot was not gonna die today and would have gotten another chance to confirm himself if not for this duel.

Who are those 5-10 slots?

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Also bg is a common fake for scum to make

it’ll be sad if pg (podyguard) is actually bg (bot goblin) but that doesn’t change the fact that I still had him in POE and didn’t have enough reasons for feeling confident he is town

 

[York]

Why do u have so many moves??

 

[Jan]

Who are those 5-10 slots?

Maybe:
Crying bc no Cryo (Furfrou, Lilligant)
Hayumi (Gyarados, Stufful)
Charlie (Espeon, Minior)
Juliet (Blissey, Audino)
RippedCal (Vaporeon, Dragonite)

Those:
Mr. Reloaded (Gardevoir, Loppuny)
The Orca (Volcanion, Tornadus)
Ratchet (Rampardos, Leafeon)
tepig19283 (Honchkrow, Corviknight)

Something like this? Haven't thought too much about it.

 

[gingerbread]

Maybe:
Crying bc no Cryo (Furfrou, Lilligant)
Hayumi (Gyarados, Stufful)
Charlie (Espeon, Minior)
Juliet (Blissey, Audino)
RippedCal (Vaporeon, Dragonite)

Those:
Mr. Reloaded (Gardevoir, Loppuny)
The Orca (Volcanion, Tornadus)
Ratchet (Rampardos, Leafeon)
tepig19283 (Honchkrow, Corviknight)

Something like this? Haven't thought too much about it.

That's what was missing for me in your play. Going at bigger slots. You've been too complacent. Now this is okay.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Maybe:
Crying bc no Cryo (Furfrou, Lilligant)
Hayumi (Gyarados, Stufful)
Charlie (Espeon, Minior)
Juliet (Blissey, Audino)
RippedCal (Vaporeon, Dragonite)

Those:
Mr. Reloaded (Gardevoir, Loppuny)
The Orca (Volcanion, Tornadus)
Ratchet (Rampardos, Leafeon)
tepig19283 (Honchkrow, Corviknight)

Something like this? Haven't thought too much about it.

are these ppl u actively Sus? Or is it POE?

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

That's what was missing for me in your play. Going at bigger slots. You've been too complacent. Now this is okay.

That’s not a legitimate push on anyone here tho unless they have 10 guns

 

[gingerbread]

That’s not a legitimate push on anyone here tho unless they have 10 guns

Yeah but my sentiment was that Jan was mostly revolving around slots like Reloaded etc.

 

[Jan]

Also bg is a common fake for scum to make

it’ll be sad if pg (podyguard) is actually bg (bot goblin) but that doesn’t change the fact that I still had him in POE and didn’t have enough reasons for feeling confident he is town

Sure. Most roles that are not loud are common scum fakeclaims.
Bodyguard is a good fakeclaim until it isn't.

I don't know if we have reached the this is fake moment yet.
But it does not matter. There is no way he survives this.
All I have left is to hope I am wrong and that he was scum all along.

(I'd rather be happy than right)

 

[Jan]

are these ppl u actively Sus? Or is it POE?

A mix?

The bottom for are kind of my sus pile right now.

The maybe pile insecurity.

Ratchet is very much on there because he started towny and has been slowly trending down all game.
He reminds me of my own scum game in a way.

 

[gingerbread]

Ratchet is very much on there because he started towny and has been slowly trending down all game.
He reminds me of my own scum game in a way

Yes

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Yeah but my sentiment was that Jan was mostly revolving around slots like Reloaded etc.

They still are tho

the ppl they listed as mainly Sus are reloaded Tepig orca and ratchet and for the most part they’re not as big of influencers in this game I think?

unless the Those: category isn’t their main picks? @Jan what do the categories mean? I might be misunderstanding

 

[Jan]

That's what was missing for me in your play. Going at bigger slots. You've been too complacent. Now this is okay.

Which bigger slots did I go for last game?

 

[gingerbread]

I wanted to write more about Ratchet yesterday but I feel like there's no town sentiment for it at all. Which is partially understandable, Town doesn't usually go at someone who was on successful scum lim day before. Such reads need to mature. But it put me in awkward spot where I'm just coasting and waiting for stuff to happen today.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Which bigger slots did I go for last game?

Which bigger slots are you going for this game?

 

[gingerbread]

Which bigger slots did I go for last game?

Raylle d1, myself d2 and d3. Generally by bigger slots I mean slots that aren't a PoE fodder, not like going at top towns.

 

[Jan]

Ratchet is very much on there because he started towny and has been slowly trending down all game.
He reminds me of my own scum game in a way.

And people say the timing of his push makes him town, but speaking from ym own scum experience.

The key moment to vote is to be slightly ahead of the curve.
You can always take a vote back, but if you think a partner is going down, you want to get in there at the right time.
You don't go back to scumchat and discuss if you can vote for them.

You vote because they got caught in something awkward, and you will get the cred/distance now.
If they are good enough to survive, then you can always walk it back.

Which is why I don't really care about the ratchet clear.
And other than that, he has been kind of just there to me.
(I have not done my due diligence on him, because honestly, until a moment ago, I wasn't even sure how I feel)

 

[Lord Melkor]

I wanted to write more about Ratchet yesterday but I feel like there's no town sentiment for it at all. Which is partially understandable, Town doesn't usually go at someone who was on successful scum lim day before. Such reads need to mature. But it put me in awkward spot where I'm just coasting and waiting for stuff to happen today.

What? Why are you scared to go against Ratchet? Seems like strange attitude coming from town.