@EmperorKinyagi I will recommend you to read past soul society arc. Given sukuna is your fav , he was definitely inspired from goat grimmjow from bleach. Grimmjow appears after soul society arc. They even have same voice actor.

Never forgot gehgeh thought it would be the sickest shit to make sukunas introduction "where the woman and children to rape"
:josad:Gegeh has no sauce
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Lmfaooo so when Oda does have Luffy familiarize himself with underlings, it suddenly doesn't count.

Yea like I said originally, you would have a point if you called the Espada the Sweet Commanders/Veterans of Bleach, Tobiroppo and All stars were not meant to serve the same role.
Nah, if you want me to rephrase I can.

Oda does not have Luffy form rivalries with anyone besides the main antagonist of the arc.

Baroque works? Nope.
Enel’s people? Nope
CP9? Nope
Moriah? Nope
Fishman Pirates? No
Donquixote pirates? He had a bigger rivalry with Chinjao than any of them
 
Oh my god
Dude you're taking something he said about being a rival to Lucci over a DECADE AGO to say he was only equal to pre ts Lucci in Wano
Not only is that a huge misinterpretation of what he said, but it also just makes no sense. The entire point was that the pre ts Straw Hats were no where near as strong as even the most weak and basic fodders of the New World, which is why they had to train over the course of two years. And even with that training, we still have moments like Luffy being bitten by Hody, or Luffy being bruised through his Armament by Ulti's headbutt. No way you think PRE TIMESKIP LUFFY, WITHOUT ANY OF THAT TRAINING, is even tickling WsW (who, mind you, is canonically above Ulti and Hody).
Pre Timeskip Luffy was one shotting the giant VAs who were getting significant amounts of hype even among New World Pirates.

:myman:

Yall taking shit too seriously, if Oda wants to retcon Lucci and EL Luffy to be TR Level, he’ll do it. Fuck he had high bounty new world pirates in the same ID level as Daz Bones.

Oda doesn’t care about being consistent
 
What's wrong with that though? Did you want the centuries old demonic entity to say I can't wait to try the ice cream from this era?
Because that its clear he wrote like that cause he thought that would make a villain memorable or "uber cool" or something and realizied just blurting it out and jumping around like retard makes him corny

there is a reason he retcon that and make sukuna combat sexual
 
Pre Timeskip Luffy was one shotting the giant VAs who were getting significant amounts of hype even among New World Pirates.

:myman:

Yall taking shit too seriously, if Oda wants to retcon Lucci and EL Luffy to be TR Level, he’ll do it. Fuck he had high bounty new world pirates in the same ID level as Daz Bones.

Oda doesn’t care about being consistent
Okay? And?
Who's Who's inferior, Drake, one shotted a Number. That's child's play for vet tiers.
He's not retconning them to be Tobiroppo level. That just destroys the narrative of the Straw Hats being weak pre ts completely.
Again, even post ts Luffy had trouble against people weaker than Who's Who.
 
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