Anime & Manga King's Match-Up Bet Thread

Who will defeat King


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Dragomir

#21


Luffy narrowly was not impaled by Katakuri with the mogura, being that Katakuri is mainly a boxer. But Luffy won in the end, it doesn't make any sense what you said.
ahem you should reread the being of luffy vs katakuri
These comparisons aren't that similar.

Luffy was in his weakest form fighting Kata in his strongest form for the majority of the fight with Luffy getting bodied. The moment both are at their strongest forms, it becomes an equal match: Snakeman vs Kata.

We have Sanji in his strongest form(RS) nearly dying to King in his weakest form(full Zoan). Now, Sanji goes from that to defeating King in his strongest form(Hybrid)? I'm putting a cap on it. Oda will have to come up with a huge power-up to make all that plausible.
You didn't even see if King damaged him or not
Was the damage too critical or just a lol damage?

Zoan form isn't the weakest lol it's stronger physically than base form unless you are Kaido.
That's why base King can't overpower Sanji but zoan king can.
You're missing the point. Sanji admitted himself he's going to get impaled, that obviously won't happen but the point is, he's almost dying to King from one attack.

Zoan is physically the strongest but overall the weakest when it comes to combat. Full Zoan form boosts your physical stats but at the expense of limiting your combat prowess. King doesn't have his swordsmanship here–which I assume would be his main arsenal–and all he can do is flap wings, kick, and dive at folks. In combat, it is the weakest.
 
#22
These comparisons aren't that similar.

Luffy was in his weakest form fighting Kata in his strongest form for the majority of the fight with Luffy getting bodied. The moment both are at their strongest forms, it becomes an equal match: Snakeman vs Kata.

We have Sanji in his strongest form(RS) nearly dying to King in his weakest form(full Zoan). Now, Sanji goes from that to defeating King in his strongest form(Hybrid)? I'm putting a cap on it. Oda will have to come up with a huge power-up to make all that plausible.
we didn’t see sanji using diable jambe and hells memories and i’m pretty sure sanji and zoro will be getting another upgrade other than the raid suit and enma just like eneis lobby
 
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Jo_Ndule

#23
These comparisons aren't that similar.

Luffy was in his weakest form fighting Kata in his strongest form for the majority of the fight with Luffy getting bodied. The moment both are at their strongest forms, it becomes an equal match: Snakeman vs Kata.

We have Sanji in his strongest form(RS) nearly dying to King in his weakest form(full Zoan). Now, Sanji goes from that to defeating King in his strongest form(Hybrid)? I'm putting a cap on it. Oda will have to come up with a huge power-up to make all that plausible.

You're missing the point. Sanji admitted himself he's going to get impaled, that obviously won't happen but the point is, he's almost dying to King from one attack.

Zoan is physically the strongest but overall the weakest when it comes to combat. Full Zoan form boosts your physical stats but at the expense of limiting your combat prowess. King doesn't have his swordsmanship here–which I assume would be his main arsenal–and all he can do is flap wings, kick, and dive at folks. In combat, it is the weakest.
Sanji admitting means nothing

I didn't know the battle is decided by just getting fatally wounded.
Also Sanji didn't even get impaled

Thankfully you assume swordmanship is his strongest arsenal.

King didn't go to zoan to be weak but to overpower Sanji mid-air.

Wait for next chapter to make judgement if Sanji can't match or beat hybrid King.

Sanji is yet to use DJ attacks and HM
King is yet to use Hybrid

Both uses fire, so it cancels out, their CoA and speed is equal already.
 
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Dragomir

#24
we didn’t see sanji using diable jambe and hells memories and i’m pretty sure sanji and zoro will be getting another upgrade other than the raid suit and enma just like eneis lobby
Sure, they will. I agree with you. But is that upgrade going to make him go from nearly dying to beating King? I find that to be a bit far-fetched. In Enies Lobby, he couldn't beat Blueno but it's not quite the same here as he didn't nearly to Blueno like he did to King.
 
#25
These comparisons aren't that similar.

Luffy was in his weakest form fighting Kata in his strongest form for the majority of the fight with Luffy getting bodied. The moment both are at their strongest forms, it becomes an equal match: Snakeman vs Kata.

We have Sanji in his strongest form(RS) nearly dying to King in his weakest form(full Zoan). Now, Sanji goes from that to defeating King in his strongest form(Hybrid)? I'm putting a cap on it. Oda will have to come up with a huge power-up to make all that plausible.
There is no weaker or stronger form for RS Sanji.
RS Sanji has no time limit, he can use it freely as a ''mode'' of power.

Katakuri is a boxer first, and is his strongest way to fight. But he almost killed Luffy with a single trident attack, as he is not even a ''trident-man''.

Full zoan form is not the weakest, at least in due situations. Queen for example chose her full zoan form to knock out Big Mom. King is using his similar "mogura" a lethal attack to try to finish off Sanji who was distracted in his rescue mission, it is comparable to situations.
 
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Dragomir

#26
Sanji admitting means nothing

I didn't know the battle is decided by just getting fatally wounded.
Also Sanji didn't even get impaled

Thankfully you assume swordmanship is his strongest arsenal.

King didn't go to zoan to be weak but to overpower Sanji mid-air.

Wait for next chapter to make judgement if Sanji can't match or beat hybrid King.

Sanji is yet to use DJ attacks and HM
King is yet to use Hybrid

Both uses fire, so it cancels out, their CoA and speed is equal already.
I don't really care all too much for it and I can already tell that we won't change each other's opinions. Let's agree to disagree.
There is no weaker or stronger form for RS Sanji.
RS Sanji has no time limit, he can use it freely as a ''mode'' of power.
You misunderstood. I wasn't saying that there was extra forms to RS Sanji, but that RS Sanji is strongest form of all of Sanji. Like how G4 is strongest mode/form for Luffy in general. Sanji not using DJ or HM doesn't change that.

Katakuri is a boxer first, and is his strongest way to fight. But he almost killed Luffy with a single trident attack, as he is not even a ''trident-man''.
Dunno what a trident-man is but Kata is a brawler. His Mogura attacks are part of that fighting style.

Full zoan form is not the weakest, at least in due situations. Queen for example chose her full zoan form to knock out Big Mom. King is using his similar "mogura" a lethal attack to try to finish off Sanji who was distracted in his rescue mission, it is comparable to situations.
This here, I agree with you on. It's the weakest in overall combat but in situations that require physicality like Queen against BM, it's the strongest and best form to be used. That makes sense.
 
#27
Zoro is dying from pulmonary edema for
Fighting to many gifters, and fortune had it King displayed a lenient towards Sanji. King was telling Sanji to get out of the way, saying basically that he would get way more hurt if he pushed his luck (kind of the same way with Vergo btw). King in base did not do well against Sanji but his pteradon sank the BM fleet and with an easy going attitude would've nearly killed him by his own admission. King is too much for Sanji, let alone Zoro

Jimbei easily dusts him though. Easily. Jimbei steps in and takes on the babysitting role for the crew (like he always does) because he is too damn op for this series and crew. King dies, if Jimbei were so inclined.
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#29
You misunderstood. I wasn't saying that there was extra forms to RS Sanji, but that RS Sanji is strongest form of all of Sanji. Like how G4 is strongest mode/form for Luffy in general. Sanji not using DJ or HM doesn't change that.
I don't think I got it wrong. RS serves in a very different way from gear4.
Gear4 is a form of power that Luffy used only in difficult situations of the fight because of the time limit.
RS is a mode in which Sanji can use freely from the beginning of the fight to the end.

so you shouldn't consider the base Sanji here

Dunno what a trident-man is but Kata is a brawler. His Mogura attacks are part of that fighting style.
Just like King's zoan form is part of his arsenal lol, and he used it as a lethal form that can impale an opponent's stomach


This here, I agree with you on. It's the weakest in overall combat but in situations that require physicality like Queen against BM, it's the strongest and best form to be used. That makes sense.
Yes, so you understand ... The zoan form can be more useful in appropriate situations... So King use his full zoan form to make his lethal attack ''mogura equivalent'' 'to try to impale Sanji who was distracted by rescue mission. So it has nothing to do with the level of power here.
Katakuri with a distraction could impale Luffy in the middle if he used mogura, even in gear4
 

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