Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1177 Spoilers Discussion

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

You guys are mistaking the Holy Knights pact with Domi Reversed people

They don't work the same way

Okay, sure, but this still makes no sense. How the hell is Chopper removing the spell now?

 

[Superior to you]

Or...
Sanji is just built different
(quite literally)

We know he is SIMPly different.

 

[Hedfi]

Okay, sure, but this still makes no sense. How the hell is Chopper removing the spell now?

PoL, hakiless death blow, cause he's an animal, his fruit is natural counter somehow, rulble ball magic, monster point(awakening), etc... there could tens of explanations, Oda will explain eventually.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Gaban didn't speak about countering DR regeneration iirc, but HK regen. The two aren't the same.

I mean, the first time they fought an immortal was DR and oda so far hasn’t made a difference between the too. Even if they’re not 1:1 I would assume similar rules apply until Oda mentions it

 

[Veku]

@Veku He read you like a book lol

He didn't even read my post properly and just yaps nonsense as usual to fill up his post count lmfao.

Again, it's a common trope that Villains getting hyped early into the arc at the expanse of the Strawhats hype, happend with Wyper against the M3, Satori against Sanji and Luffy, The CP9 against pretty much every Strawhat(we had Bluno even getting the upper hand on Luffy at W7), Perona against the M3, Caesar against Luffy etc...

Asside from Shamrock, Gunko could be the exception, but looking at Sommers and Killingham, we have at least as much reason to believe she'd be just another Holy Jobber as them...

 

[Gears Kaios]

Zoro wins the popularity poll in Japan and the next chapter he's weaker than Chopper

Wasn’t he always weaker than chopper?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

PoL, hakiless death blow, cause he's an animal, his fruit is natural counter somehow, rulble ball magic, monster point(awakening), etc... there could tens of explanations, Oda will explain eventually.

If Power of Love is a real power up, I seriously doubt Chopper will get it, especially when it's had no build up
That one just doesn't make sense. What makes a reindeer-human hybrid different from a human in that regard?
The others also make no sense whatsoever
Oda's just a bad writer nowadays. It's fine to admit that, because not even the best writers can escape such a fall off.

 

[ElderOnitar]

Well, it’s not haki since Chopper doesn’t have that. And it’s not killing them since as we heard they just keep regenerating.

So we’ll have to see what chopper says or does

Maybe Chopper is secretly a mural god or something.

 

[SakazOuki]

What your average swordbro will see in their sleep today

 

[soupongo]

We are deep into the arc and there is no tension, no stakes, that little bitte of threat left all tracks down to their regeneration gimmick and how to deal with it permanently - that's it really.

Potentially? to my memory, we ended the FB about 6 or 7 chapters ago, which is about when we started the conflict with the SHP and the Gods Knights. We´re now starting a conflict with Imu, but I believe that Oda will probably want to spend at least 2 or 3 months before ending the arcs conflict. It would be weird if this arc ends up shorter than Egghead, imo. The Gods Knights could concievably get longer fights, since Sommers is clearly not actually down(no confirmation from Imu), and it´s hard to say that Killingham was really taken out by a rope? Again, the full spoilers aren´t even out, so it´s a bit confusing still.

Killingham seemingly is in agony and getting restrained after a single kick from Sanji, that's not how Oda has been portraying a YC1+ threat, or even someone like Queen

If it´s over, I think it´s valid to say that top commanders are above the Gods Knights, except I think Gunko still has a pretty good case of being yc+, she still did neg Jinbei, and was able to harm an off guard Gaban, which I´m not convinced Oda would give the likes of Queen or maybe even Kuri the honor of.

 

[Superior to you]

Simpji must have picked up Rope Action from Paulie in Water7.

He is getting better, im starting to get worried... Ropes > Swords

 

[Sir Yasheen]

If Power of Love is a real power up, I seriously doubt Chopper will get it, especially when it's had no build up
That one just doesn't make sense. What makes a reindeer-human hybrid different from a human in that regard?
The others also make no sense whatsoever
Oda's just a bad writer nowadays. It's fine to admit that, because not even the best writers can escape such a fall off.

To be fair to chopper, his timeskip power up was mainly him being the ability to control and uncontrollable body. Similar things to what other PoL users in Kuma and Sanji do.

Plus isn’t Choppers whole backstory about the link between emotions and the human body?

 

[Shiroyru]

He didn't even read my post properly and just yaps nonsense as usual to fill up his post count lmfao.

Again, it's a common trope that Villains getting hyped early into the arc at the expanse of the Strawhats hype, happend with Wyper against the M3, Satori against Sanji and Luffy, The CP9 against pretty much every Strawhat(we had Bluno even getting the upper hand on Luffy at W7), Perona against the M3, Caesar against Luffy etc...

Asside from Shamrock, Gunko could be the exception, but looking at Sommers and Killingham, we have at least as much reason to believe she'd be just another Holy Jobber as them...

I'm sure you'll apply the same logic to Sanji jobbing to Doffy in Dressrosa.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

He didn't even read my post properly and just yaps nonsense as usual to fill up his post count lmfao.

Again, it's a common trope that Villains getting hyped early into the arc at the expanse of the Strawhats hype, happend with Wyper against the M3, Satori against Sanji and Luffy, The CP9 against pretty much every Strawhat(we had Bluno even getting the upper hand on Luffy at W7), Perona against the M3, Caesar against Luffy etc...

Asside from Shamrock, Gunko could be the exception, but looking at Sommers and Killingham, we have at least as much reason to believe she'd be just another Holy Jobber as them...

Don’t forget to add Smoker against Law, and Sanji against Doffy

 

[Hedfi]

I mean, the first time they fought an immortal was DR and oda so far hasn’t made a difference between the too. Even if they’re not 1:1 I would assume similar rules apply until Oda mentions it

HK and Gorosei contracts with Imu seem to be permanent or at least pretty yard to break. Only contractless DR seems to be reversable at the moment, or at the very least the easiest to unravel.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

HK and Gorosei contracts with Imu seem to be permanent or at least pretty yard to break. Only contractless DR seems to be reversable at the moment, or at the very least the easiest to unravel.

I think the permanence is the only different. DR is a temporary boost seemingly born from one’s own life span being sacrificed while HK invulnerability comes from Imus immortal life span.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Maybe Chopper is secretly a mural god or something.

Forest God is him

Deer are usually found in forests after all

 

[Hedfi]

If Power of Love is a real power up, I seriously doubt Chopper will get it, especially when it's had no build up
That one just doesn't make sense. What makes a reindeer-human hybrid different from a human in that regard?
The others also make no sense whatsoever
Oda's just a bad writer nowadays. It's fine to admit that, because not even the best writers can escape such a fall off.

There could be any kind of in story explanation like I said, doesn't mean they would be good though.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Don’t forget to add Smoker against Law, and Sanji against Doffy

Worfs, worfs everywhere

 

[Hedfi]

I think the permanence is the only different. DR is a temporary boost seemingly born from one’s own life span being sacrificed while HK invulnerability comes from Imus immortal life span.

A pretty good explanation imo. It could simply be that that lifespan was completely spent and that's why they revert back. Make sense.