[FNZ] Super Role Madness Pokemon: I choose you!

[bittersweet]

I feel you. Just keep playing the game and ignore the noise.

It gets old. But I am, yes. Till I get voted out or am killed during the night phase.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

No, I'm not claiming a skill issue. I'm claiming that I have trouble reading some of the veteran players sometimes. It's why I'm more often than not suspicious of them. It's not any particular thing they've done but when we get to where we are now, I find it easier to maintain the suspicion that everyone else is possibly not town until proven otherwise.

The cop checks are handy and have helped. I might have missed exactly who all Charlie hit with the alignment checks so I'll grant that as a whoops.

Yeah but u also missed Luka’s case on Rej. It’s not even a “I failed to read this person cuz they’re good at mafia” at this point as much as a “I failed to read”. Cuz you’re missing a lot of stuff and saying “well, I remember somebody said something about Rej so I voted Rej”. Like we had to explicitly tell you that Charlie claimed cop before you noticed it and even then you only noticed one of his 3 checks

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

It just feels like you’re lying about reading the game @bittersweet and I don’t know what to make of it

cuz I don’t know why mafia would do this unless they just didn’t care about the game or were busy, and I’m surprised your teammates didn’t fill u in if you’re mafia

 

[bittersweet]

I'm also confused if people have me listed in their PoE, why not throw a vote on me then?

Anyway, I think I'm going to follow this:

Crying -> Orca -> BTAM

Going back to my original suspicions of the slot, especially considering that Pot Goblin flipped town.

Yeah but u also missed Luka’s case on Rej. It’s not even a “I failed to read this person cuz they’re good at mafia” at this point as much as a “I failed to read”. Cuz you’re missing a lot of stuff and saying “well, I remember somebody said something about Rej so I voted Rej”. Like we had to explicitly tell you that Charlie claimed cop before you noticed it and even then you only noticed one of his 3 checks

Luka's case on Rej?

It just feels like you’re lying about reading the game @bittersweet and I don’t know what to make of it

I'm not lying about reading the game. But there are times when there are 30 to 50 pages or more of posts between the time I check (i may need to tweak my posts per page settings in my profile) where I skim and look for things that draw my eye.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

I’m really not trying to sound mean or rude here and I’m sorry if I am

im mostly just confused here

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

I'm also confused if people have me listed in their PoE, why not throw a vote on me then?

Anyway, I think I'm going to follow this:

Crying -> Orca -> BTAM

Going back to my original suspicions of the slot, especially considering that Pot Goblin flipped town.



Luka's case on Rej?


I'm not lying about reading the game. But there are times when there are 30 to 50 pages or more of posts between the time I check (i may need to tweak my posts per page settings in my profile) where I skim and look for things that draw my eye.

Yeah Luka is the one who drew everyone’s attention to Rej being scum

and okay if you’re just skimming I can see how you would miss a lot

 

[bittersweet]

I don't think you're being mean and it's a fair criticism to have of another player.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Also @bittersweet PG flipped town like

days ago

do u suspect me and Poyser for anything more recent?

 

[gingerbread]

Crying has time to give from the liver (dać z wątroby :* @Charlie) so we'll hear him out, wonder how he sees it all

You got a problem with my hosting games? Say it to my face. I have made it abundantly clear to some people that I am not always the best at mafia. I do better hosting and no one had a problem with my hosting when I did it other than obvious first time self-hosting game problems.

As to this game, I was sick at the start of it and have been following. I had a list that I had edited based on the current slot flips and thought I copied it but it was my initial list before the changes. I corrected my list with where my head is at in the game and that was where I currently am on reads.

You are welcome to critique it and throw shade at it, that's fine.

i apologize, I actually meant to not send that comment, but it stayed in draft window and got sent accidentally. it was impolite. I don't know how you host games, no problem with these. Just the contrast between being a host vs not knowing any action resolutions this game.

regarding your scumlist I made some comments you missed

so you think scum Charlie clears/pockets possibly 4 townies? isn't that counter productive to scum team wincon?

 

[hime]

Confirmed Town:
- Alwaysmind
- Marimo_420
- Handium
- Dr. Watson
- Lord Melkor
- Jan

Slight Town Leans:
- Flower
- TheAverageGuy
- hime
- Polar Bear (Yoho had him as a firm suspect early on, feel like this clears him as town, though could it be distancing between teammates?)

Null:
- gingerbread (Yoho had him listed as scum suspect or scum adjacent, possible distancing or town?)
- Ratchet
- York (trending down)
- Yoho (claims to be a good noodle but plays like scum a lot of games lately)
- RippedCal
- Juliet (trending down, hope activity this weekend can sway one way or the other)
- Mr. Reloaded

Slight Scum Lean:
- Poyser/BTAM
- Hayumi (not sure if the lack of real thread presence from them is any indication of alignment one way or another)
- Charlie
- Crying
- Orca

Confirmed Scum:
- Rej
- Yoho

Confirmed Indie:
- tepig

huhhh 😭

 

[bittersweet]

i apologize, I actually meant to not send that comment, but it stayed in draft window and got sent accidentally. it was impolite. I don't know how you host games, no problem with these. Just the contrast between being a host vs not knowing any action resolutions this game.

That's why I cleared resolutions near the end of the game with Fuji when he had been eliminated.

so you think scum Charlie clears/pockets possibly 4 townies? isn't that counter productive to scum team wincon?

I moved Charlie to slight town lean in the new list?

huhhh 😭

?

 

[Hayumi]

Fair enough. ANy ordering to the PoE? For reference I have Crying and bitter at the top of mine, Reloaded as a third though his play today has not enthused me.

Do you feel scum bitter would have no knowledge of the game state or intentionally pretend to not know Charlie is cop and who the checked targets were, going so far as to put us all in his scum POE?

Feels a bit too lost in the sauce imo and I don’t really agree it’s within his range to fake it. And at bare minimum I’d expect him to have mafia chat updates of what’s going on lol

 

[gingerbread]

I moved Charlie to slight town lean in the new list?

ah you did

actually moved to confirmed town

how valid his checks are you think on Polar, Hayumi and myself?

and he claimed like to be a det, hmm, 5 days ago already? you didn't consider it towny back then?

 

[gingerbread]

so Reloaded, explain WHY THE ORCA VOTE

@Mr. Reloaded

I'm not buying wifom answer "I wouldn't do this as scum" or "because they could both be scum"

why you had Orca scummier than Yoho specifically in d4?

 

[Ratchet]

Do you feel scum bitter would have no knowledge of the game state or intentionally pretend to not know Charlie is cop and who the checked targets were, going so far as to put us all in his scum POE?

Feels a bit too lost in the sauce imo and I don’t really agree it’s within his range to fake it. And at bare minimum I’d expect him to have mafia chat updates of what’s going on lol

Requires more assumptions that I'm willing to make - for one that it has to be fake. Could just be low activity and not up to date with the chat.

 

[hime]

I honestly don't know. I figured it would be like a "this action might happen again for free, but with reduced effectiveness" ability. But I can ask for clarification if you want?

At least, I don't *think* it should force anyone to make the same action twice from their own pool, since since players have only 1 shot?

Yes if u could get clarification that would be great

 

[hime]

I have a 50% chance to destroy abilities targeting me

Abilities or actions? My ability wasn't destroyed or else fuji would've told me that i could no longer use it probs

 

[gingerbread]

I think Cal had a few performative posts last phase, "a scum between flower and ginger because hunch on top posters"

now I asked him to follow it up to gauge him better and I'm not a fan, he says he still has mistrust of Flower

like, imagine if Flower was power wolfing this game (being capable to play like this and gain this position) - somehow she'd be town siding a lot

like, Rej lim, Tepig lim, Yoho lim - where would we be without Flower in these, she could steer these elsewhere

I thought that after Yoho lim Cal would change his mind, but not

funny thing Cal liked that post

@Flower your thoughts on Cal re:this?

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Do you feel scum bitter would have no knowledge of the game state or intentionally pretend to not know Charlie is cop and who the checked targets were, going so far as to put us all in his scum POE?

Feels a bit too lost in the sauce imo and I don’t really agree it’s within his range to fake it. And at bare minimum I’d expect him to have mafia chat updates of what’s going on lol

I thought this too

but also if he’s this far behind he might be skimming both thread and scum chat and missed it in scum chat too idk

Please regardless of his alignment don’t let bs live til LYLO cuz in the odd case he’s just this uninformed as town he’s gonna be an absolute slam dunk for mafia

 

[gingerbread]

don’t let bs live til LYLO cuz in the odd case he’s just this uninformed as town he’s gonna be an absolute slam dunk for mafia

valid point but I'm not sure we can afford convenience lims like this still