Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Lack of understanding= not subscribing to my niche world views

I literally have a guy from the Middle East agreeing with me on that antisemitic take but go ahead lol

So you got another reactionnary agreeing with you and somehow you think it's ok because they are from the middle east? You want to prove my point more or what?

no he is not lol

he is the caricature of a leftist

a strawman that righties can pile on to feel good

Still based tho



It's always funny how much you guyz try to strawman your way out of unconfortable situation and your lack of ethics by going personnal on me everytime... while ending up the noise in the ground in silence every damn time because it never breaks my spirit.

3671 pages and you still think that you are the ones having the fun. Lmao.

He's more tame than a lot of Tankies and Campists lol

I'm neither

Bro you rant about this all the time, everyone here knows thats what you are obsessing over

Well yeah.. that's the point. Someone has to talk about it.

 

[Blax Blah]

This thread would feel empty without Logiko

 

[Jiihad]

@Roo to kinda touch a lil more on tha Sudan point and as to why it’s not gettin more coverage and people aren’t speakin out as much bout it as Israel etc

There’s been that propaganda for literal HUNDREDS of years that black people are animals/savages/uncivilized etc. so when these African countries are embroiled and going through these Genocides and Government upheaval and unrest. Most of tha rest of tha world turns a blind eye to it cause, again “oh they’re animals” so it’s an “expected” outcome so people don’t have tha same humanity and understanding when it comes to black humans being brutalized and killed in droves

With Israel and other countries, they’re viewed different cause “oh they look like us” so they kan easier sympathize and reach across that isle with them. It hit closer to home for em kause, they look like em

 

[Logiko]

@Roo to kinda touch a lil more on tha Sudan point and as to why it’s not gettin more coverage and people aren’t speakin out as much bout it as Israel etc

There’s been that propaganda for literal HUNDREDS of years that black people are animals/savages/uncivilized etc. so when these African countries are embroiled and going through these Genocides and Government upheaval and unrest. Most of tha rest of tha world turns a blind eye to it cause, again “oh they’re animals” so it’s an “expected” outcome so people don’t have tha same humanity and understanding when it comes to black humans being brutalized and killed in droves

With Israel and other countries, they’re viewed different cause “oh they look like us” so they kan easier sympathize and reach across that isle with them. It hit closer to home for em kause, they look like em

That is true. White supremacy is one of the main problem in these conflict and the lack of attention.

 

[Midnight Delight]

White supremacy is one of the main problem in these conflict

Campist

 

[Blax Blah]

I am the urban rescue ranch

 

[Blax Blah]

@Roo to kinda touch a lil more on tha Sudan point and as to why it’s not gettin more coverage and people aren’t speakin out as much bout it as Israel etc

There’s been that propaganda for literal HUNDREDS of years that black people are animals/savages/uncivilized etc. so when these African countries are embroiled and going through these Genocides and Government upheaval and unrest. Most of tha rest of tha world turns a blind eye to it cause, again “oh they’re animals” so it’s an “expected” outcome so people don’t have tha same humanity and understanding when it comes to black humans being brutalized and killed in droves

With Israel and other countries, they’re viewed different cause “oh they look like us” so they kan easier sympathize and reach across that isle with them. It hit closer to home for em kause, they look like em

That is true. White supremacy is one of the main problem in these conflict and the lack of attention.

The racist mind is very perverted

 

[Logiko]

Campist

 

[Logiko]

The racist mind is very perverted

I don't know about "perverted", but harmfull definitely yea

 

[Midnight Delight]

Your Mazdakite ways will bring your downfall

 

[Blax Blah]

I don't know about "perverted", but harmfull definitely yea

Well sexual perversion isn't the only perversion there is

Racism is perverted

 

[Logiko]

Your Mazdakite ways will bring your downfall

Oh I'm starting to understand what Mathias meant.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-iran-ground-troop-preparations/

So its boots on the ground it can happen any time .

 

[Midnight Delight]

Oh I'm starting to understand what Mathias meant.

Have fun when Jordan becomes President, and know that it's the Fault of Leftists like yourself that Fascist rose again

 

[Reborn]

1. I’m not asking you to justify anything, we’re just making observations
2. I am probably more aware of geopolitics than you lol. I mean I literally talk about it in this thread with guys like @Reborn @Midnight Delight and @Apollo. Unlike you tho I don’t go into pop politics so our conversations are less sensational

3. Sure you did, I am sure if we were to search “Sudan” in this thread the first post would be from you lol

“Reactionary rhetoric” is when pointing out obvious lack of attention worse conflicts gets and why lol. Brother those buzzwords don’t work here

Problem here is we just gave a general observation about the left on selective activism (which is true actually and everyone knows the reason) and suddenly we have a leftist getting defensive about it lol

I mean logiko felt the need to take it personal and get reactionary says enough

 

[MonochromeYoru]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-iran-ground-troop-preparations/

So its boots on the ground it can happen any time .

the second trump said "no boots on the ground" it was guaranteed lol

i think he prolly thinks him saying the opposite first makes the opponent confused. like a playground tactic

 

[Midnight Delight]

I mean logiko felt the need to take it personal and get reactionary says enough

Now he will throw a tantrum at you lmao

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1ryuijn
Thank you Donald

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

the second trump said "no boots on the ground" it was guaranteed lol

i think he prolly thinks him saying the opposite first makes the opponent confused. like a playground tactic

Ya the war is gonna over soon we gonna win bigly folks . I am sure Barron is advising him lol

 

[Apollo]

It was likely Reza lying about his insiders in Iran and Bibi going along with it to Trump because he wants an excuse to be pardoned from his trial(war)

I doubt this.
For one, Netanyahu would like to stay out of prison but this isn't the cause of this war. Polls showed the overwhelming majority of Israelis want this war. Opposition leader Lapid and Bennet have shown support for it. Its part of the Greater Israel vision to either balkanize Iran or replace it with a friendly regime.
As for Reza, I do not believe for a moment Trump or any American official believed his grift. Trump publicly dismissed Pahlavi multiple times, and the guy has no cohesive movement or support within Iran. He's less viable than Venezuela's opposition leader, and we saw what she got: Nothing.

I think it's more to do with elections and I am not talking about US midterm elections.

Iran proxy war through Hamaz and Hezbollah is not hidden from anyone. There's strong dislike for Iran in Israel. You can say popular sentiments is in favor of taking action against Iran.

Bibi has been advocating actions against Iran for a long time as well but his hands were tied.


This year Israel has legislative elections and survey was showing that Bibi's party was behind in polls.

I think war against Iran became a domestic political necessity for Bibi.

At the same time, Trump was on hot seat due to Greenland fiasco followed by Epstein files.


So perhaps both thought a campaign against Iran would help them more in elections.

But I don't think they expected Khamenei's death and Iran's hard stance which followed leading to Hormuz control.

Now, you can clearly see the difference in their stance.

Bibi says it was bound to a long term campaign while Trump who isn't so diplomatically tuned said it was weeks long campaign.

Short campaign is also evident from build up around Hormuz before war started. I doubt US can make such a strategic blunder if they were planning or were anticipating long campaign.

Like I said above: the Iran war has massive public support in Israel.
And this Iran war started last year in June, it became clear Israel couldn't finish the job on its own and this is why America is fighting the war now with Israel.

But you're right on a very important point: seems like Israel and the USA have different objectives for this war. Israel wants to bring down the regime and that includes destroying infrastructure to cause an uprising, while the USA wants a longer and slower degradation of Iran's capabilities while keeping infrastructure for whoever they think will rule Iran next.

As for Greenlannd, I think Trump would be more serious about taking it now than before since NATO has shown it has less desire to take part in America's adventures and would rather keep the defensive alliance a purely defensive one, especially after the Ukraine war.