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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
1. This was Luffy’s first time in G5, he had no clue what the drawbacks were.
2. It’s literally just a setup for a gag. The gag being Luffy claiming he’s not done yet and then immediately turning into a raisin and claiming his drained. The sudden juxtaposition was supposed to be funny. He had to force himself back into G5, which is why he was out cold for a week after.
Again, even ignoring the direct statements coming from Luffy's mouth (not at limit vs at my limit).

1.Luffy was nowhere near in the same state as he was on Egghead (here he still has enough energy to stay facing Kaidou having a convo, on Egghead he is flat on his back unable to move, can barely speak, and his pupils black).

2.Luffy barely used G5 at this point, this entire scene is stressing how long the battle has been going, Luffy even references that dying takes a lot of energy. Not Gear 5. This has NOTHING to do with G5. Luffy had not taken Gear 5 to its max timer, it was his overall body which was exhausted from the long battle and literal death.


Against Kizaru Luffy fought in Gear 5 for much longer than he did by this point of the Kaidou fight, most of it being offpanel. He simply maxed out G5's time limit. Once you max out the time limit that's it, there's no going back to it without replenishing. That's the entire point of a drawback.

What he did in the Kaidou fight was pump his heart back because his heart stopped earlier in the fight and dying exhausted him. This was never a retcon, it was always a situational thing where he prematurely got kicked out of G5 due to overall exhaustion.

I ask you again, please stop being a retard. You should start a youtube channel if you want to be retarded, don't do it for free.
 
Oh god lmfao. Isn´t it clearly a possibility now that Loki only get captured because his timelimit ran out?
@Elder Lee Hung @Kurozumi Wiwi @Shiroyru
I don't think he has an actual timelimit tbh, it's that maintaining the kilometers tall form requires more energy but he's not anywhere near the state Luffy is in this chapter.

Although it would be hilarious if that was the case considering how many yonko fans think Kizaru outlasting Luffy doesn't mean he's superior
 
Lmao this is the guy we are supposed to rank above old legend who gasses out using using his fruit for a few minutes :kobeha:

(Luffy’s Gear 5 wears off. He returns to his withered old man form; his clothes revert to Elbaph-style attire. He falls down.) PLOP! Loki: I don’t know who you are, but… this is quicker… I’ve been gigantic for too long. Huff… Huff… (Seems Loki gets fatigued when using Nidhogg form.)
 

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Lmao this is the guy we are supposed to rank above old legend who gasses out using using his fruit for a few minutes :kobeha:

(Luffy’s Gear 5 wears off. He returns to his withered old man form; his clothes revert to Elbaph-style attire. He falls down.) PLOP! Loki: I don’t know who you are, but… this is quicker… I’ve been gigantic for too long. Huff… Huff… (Seems Loki gets fatigued when using Nidhogg form.)
Remember that even fruitless, Ragnir-less Loki is above Harald who high diffs every old legend at worst
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Which is another Logia win. Those guys can spam their element for weeks. No wonder Vegapunk the Azure Dragon replicator couldn't do so with Logia.
Yea wtf. I think if Oda drew a logia today he would randomly have them huffing using their abilities. In the current meta logias are so busted cause these mfers can spam island lvl stuff casually. And he hasn't even tapped into their awakenings....big yikes.
 
Once upon a time, Zoan fruits enhanced the stamina of the user, they weren’t like temporary Powerups lmfao

This was before Lolda lost his mind and gave up
Well for Luffy it kind of make sense as we know awakening is mean to be exhausting, especially when you just unlock it.

But there's no reason why Loki's beast form should give him less endurance except Oda not knowing how to balance it. The whole point of zoan is that it boosts all your base stats
 
ACoC is useless.
Forget failing to kill a single HK, Roger could not even destroy Sommers "mecha heart" in the 20 years they fought.

Killingham who is tied up by rope is more or less defeated as opposed to Sommers who is now regenerating all aCoC damage and should be back up to fight next chapter.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
“Kizaru > Luffy because he timed him out of G5”

“Shanks isn’t stronger than Loki because he only won by timing out Nidhogg”
Honestly Loki in base with Ragnir already scales far above the top tiers we've seen go all out. So if Shanks did it to base Loki he is already much stronger than the previous gen.
 
Remember that even fruitless, Ragnir-less Loki is above Harald who high diffs every old legend at worst
How is Loki that strong?

Don't tell me you believe defeating Harald who didn't fight back and allowed Loki to attack him without putting up a haki guard or blocking the attack is an impressive feat. This is why Loki is so overrated. Even Rogers can killed by fodders when he's not fighting back or putting up a guard.
 
What are you hallucinating now lmfao? Base Harald knew he couldn’t overcome Ragnir while base Loki did. Fruitless Loki is above every mere Yonko and it’s not close.
Yes Base Harald wanked the base of Rock's cock, and that had ACoC, and then Loki hammered it, but that was pre-ACoC, post-DF, pre-awakening.

Maybe just read the story and stop the mental gymnastics. Loki AT BEST is being treated like Luffy's equal atm, and that's notwithstanding the comments Luffy has made over and over about beating his ass or making him his nakama.
 
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