Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
But Iran is only attacking Arab Infrastructure in the region for some reason
Iran is attacking US assets primarily - or US controlled assets or through which US gets support.

I mean US assets do get support like electricity, fuels and other supplies from the gulf



Iran did attack Arab infrastructure but it's more to raise the cost of the war on the Gulf to prevent them from letting their airspace to be used by US
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
this whole thing is too weird

unless everyone is lying to an extent
No one is lying.

There are back channels talks going on.

Trump even praised Iran and called them great negotiator.

Chain of command in Iran is scattered. I think US negotiations perhaps isn't happening with IRGC (who are controlling the situation as of now ) but key personalities like Iran's Foreign Minister.

There has been so many reports about talks going on that it's hard to believe there's no element of truth to this
 

AL sama

Red Haired
No one is lying.

There are back channels talks going on.

Trump even praised Iran and called them great negotiator.

Chain of command in Iran is scattered. I think US negotiations perhaps isn't happening with IRGC (who are controlling the situation as of now ) but key personalities like Iran's Foreign Minister.

There has been so many reports about talks going on that it's hard to believe there's no element of truth to this
I have my doubts cause Iran's denial is too blunt

also do you think Iran will accept such one conditions??
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
@Jew D. Boy I feel like my biggest issue with a lot of leftist Policies nowadays is that too many times it's assumed you are the on the other side and disallow nuances

>Assisted suicide is a complex subject that needs dozens of checks and balances to make sure the government isn't just encouraging people to kill themselves to save money

>If someone's life is fucked beyond recognition then there's some sense in it even if it's gonna hurt people in their lives

Problem is that this nuance is just too much for the average person so they "pick a side"
I’ll admit that I’m guilty of this behavior, the nuance gets lost once emotion and personal preferences are involved…still, I think that from an objective standpoint, this should be an option for people with terminal diagnoses or immense and untreatable pain, and again, only after several rounds of intense psychological evaluation and the involvement of or input from their loved ones :luuh:
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
I have my doubts cause Iran's denial is too blunt

also do you think Iran will accept such one conditions??
Iran's denial was blunt 4-5 days ago when Trump postponed attacks on energy infrastructure citing the reason that talks happened.

But since then not only Trump has doubled down on peace talks are going on but many independent coverage and news reported few things

1) Turkey, Pakistan and Egypt are trying to mediate between them

2) back channel talks to have higher officials meet at neutral venue like in Pakistan

3) 4 or 5 conditions send by Iran which includes two key conditions - A) To recognize rights of Iran to control Hormuz. B) US to give war reparations

At the same time, there's growing pressure from all other countries on both US and Iran to do ceasefire and energy crisis is gradually spiralling out of hands.

Such news didn't happen for first few weeks but suddenly they are all over the media in past few days. There's truth to this.

Why Israel is still attacking Iran?

It's strategy - continuous bombing on one hand along with an open channel of peace talks is a strategy to push Iran to accept conditions and negotiate.


Why Iran especially IRGC isn't accepting openly about having peace talks?

Because the context - openly admitting having peace talks imply Iran has admitted defeat, succumb to US pressure and is finding way out to do ceasefire. This is the last thing Iran wants. At the same time, there's trust deficit in Iran - what if US is buying time to build more assets?

So, Iran is maintaining its hard stance and denying upfront but based on reports I am quite confident back door talks are happening.


Also during war, negotiation begins behind the back door while war is going at the front.

Will it work? Don't know.

Both parties have conditions which aren't easily acceptable.

US simply have an idiot in the power who doesn't know a shit about how to be diplomatic and statesman and thus speaks whatever nonsense (Iran is begging) he likes to.
 
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