Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1179 Spoilers Discussion

[Elder Lee Hung]

@Elder Lee Hung @EmperorKinyagi @ZenZu @soupongo @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @Fujishiro @Sentinel
Ragnir canonically has better freezing powers than Luzan?
https://x.com/worstgenhq/status/2039389639694295192?s=46

It is what it is


I said Loki powercliffed Admirals from the start lol.

 

[sparrow210]

MF can be happy that he never faced Loki and Ragnir...

 

[HeroesNZ]

Imunko couldn't break the ice with all the haki in the world. The fact the ice doesn't melt means it's not actual ice....think of it like a hax ability that traps you in but it happens to take the form of ice. It's just magic.

This lvl of hax is not uncommon in other verses. We're just getting introduced to god tier abilities so I wouldn't be surprised in the least.

Actually a good way to look at this is: the way Kuzan's ice treats commanders is how Ragnirs ice can treat top tiers. We've just scaled up.

Did you see Imunko actually try to break the ice? Because I certainly didn't.

That makes no sense, that's like saying fire that doesn't stop burning isn't actual fire. Idk how you jump from ice that doesn't dissolve to an unblockable perma-trap spell that isn't even ice.

Kuzan's ice can't neg-diff top commanders, i.e., YC1/2 and above and it's not even permanent, you can still thaw people out. His flash freeze was broken out of by Doflamingo. His named freezing attack was a non-factor to old Garp who was already weaker than him. Let Loki actually perma-freeze a top-tier before you start insane claims like he neg-diffs Kaido lmfao. If it were that hax, why not freeze Harald instead of killing him?

 

[Fujishiro]

It is what it is


I said Loki powercliffed Admirals from the start lol.

@ElderOnitar ban L'ee from the admiral fandom.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Let’s take things at face value.

Gunko-Imu couldn’t break out of Ragnir’s ice and had to respawn.

Doesn’t that imply that literally everyone is cooked

Imu didn’t have any way to keep fighting since his main ability he could use via Gunko was ineffective due to matchup. That’s why he just left.

 

[Fujishiro]

Imu didn’t have any way to keep fighting since his main ability he could use via Gunko was ineffective due to matchup. That’s why he just left.

They were talking and there were a few panels of Gunkimu just sitting there with ''.....''.

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

Top tiers can probably break out Ragnirs ice. The convo is probably Luffy asking if it’s safe to leave Gunko alone because the ice could melt, and Loki saying not to worry cause Ragnirs ice only melts when he says so.

If this True then The MMA Skull/Draugr are a Top Tier since it break through Loki's Niflheim

 

[ElderOnitar]

@ElderOnitar ban L'ee from the admiral fandom.

I am appointing @Shiroyru as the new head of the admiral fandom

 

[Sir Yasheen]

They were talking and there were a few panels of Gunkimu just sitting there with ''.....''.

That translates to “That bearded dude was right. I’ll do it myself.”

 

[Crow]

Even Kaido doesn't know Loki or see him as a threat

Kaido doesn't know a huge ass dragon zoan user flying around in the NW with a bounty of 2.5+B?


Loki is, just as mihawk, not in kaido's top 5. They're on his denial list which is filled with people who he pointedly pretends do not exist

 

[Francher Styles]

Kaido doesn't know a huge ass dragon zoan user flying around in the NW with a bounty of 2.5+B?


Loki is, just as mihawk, not in kaido's top 5. They're on his denial list which is filled with people who he pointedly pretends do not exist

Kaido top 5 is Oda not thinking long-term. He wasn't thinking that this saga would be filled with future arcs that would require strongest beings like Imu, Loki, The Man marked by flames etc...

 

[SDfear]

@Lance_Dragonite
New Mario movie better than first one

 

[Blax Blah]

Love you guys

 

[Fujishiro]

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[sparrow210]

@Lance_Dragonite

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

What will he do?

Fight Kuzan and/or Crocodile probably.

 

[Nadel]

Kuzan is finished

 

[ZenZu]

Did you see Imunko actually try to break the ice? Because I certainly didn't.

Breaking out of ice is like the most common trope in anime history. If Oda wanted to show Imunko can easily break out of it, it would be done. Instead he is telling his readers this ice is different.

That makes no sense, that's like saying fire that doesn't stop burning isn't actual fire. Idk how you jump from ice that doesn't dissolve to an unblockable perma-trap spell that isn't even ice.

Amaterasu isn't actual fire. It's just magical ability, this can work the same way. If what Loki is saying is only ragnir can undo the ice then it is indeed not functioning like ice should.

Kuzan's ice can't neg-diff top commanders, i.e., YC1/2 and above and it's not even permanent, you can still thaw people out. His flash freeze was broken out of by Doflamingo. His named freezing attack was a non-factor to old Garp who was already weaker than him. Let Loki actually perma-freeze a top-tier before you start insane claims like he neg-diffs Kaido lmfao. If it were that hax, why not freeze Harald instead of killing him?

Jozu was frozen and unable to break out and he is comfortably a top commander range character. If you don't have the right ability to counter you're screwed against it.

I think this will work similarly, not everyone can get trapped, but the potential is there for sure.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Kuzan is finished

kuzan is faster and can freeze his opponents

 

[Jackteo]

@Jackteo will Imu spare him at the end of the arc?

I hope so. Our boy Sommers is dying here on Elbaf and I don't want Zoro to kill him