Controversial General Political Discussion
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The rest? I have seen absolutely 0 political or ethical evolution. I'm still seeing the same argument from some that they were giving to me 3 years ago.
I had already understood what you meant I think.
Economic sanction is already war. And there are lots of steps thereafter.
Also we can see something quite precisely with the war in Ukraine. NATO and the US are engaging in it by unlocking higher and higher tech weapons by steps.
It's "should we give them this missile ? this tank ? this jet-fighter ? this anti-air missiles ?" and so on... and they take time to provide these weapons but that's specific to a war against Russia.
"Is it more moral if we don't give Ukrainians this and that weapons before this and that schedule ?
Economic sanction is already war. And there are lots of steps thereafter.
Also we can see something quite precisely with the war in Ukraine. NATO and the US are engaging in it by unlocking higher and higher tech weapons by steps.
It's "should we give them this missile ? this tank ? this jet-fighter ? this anti-air missiles ?" and so on... and they take time to provide these weapons but that's specific to a war against Russia.
"Is it more moral if we don't give Ukrainians this and that weapons before this and that schedule ?
Mar 3: "We won the war."
Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."
Mar 9: "We must attack Iran."
Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."
Mar 11: "We must attack Iran."
Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."
Mar 13: "We won the war."
Mar 14: "Please help us."
Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."
Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all."
Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me."
Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."
Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help."
Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."
Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."
Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it."
Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait"
Mar 22: "Iran is Dead"
Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran."
Mar 24: "We’re making progress."
Mar 25: No major quote
Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away."
Mar 27: "We don’t have to be there for NATO."
Mar 28: No major quote
Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing
Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences."
Apr 5: "Open the fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."
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I agree but
Lots of "White Liberal Boy" types will tell you that Bush was a war criminal for the War but Clinton isn't for the more Deadly Sanctions
Which is my point, posturing, much like "anti hunting" people who don't actually give a shit about animals, just hate the "bad vibes" they get from Hunters so they see it as immoral
These people are why Obama decided to just Drone Weddings instead of wasting ground troops, he knew very well most of them didn't care about civilians, they just hated the "bad vibes" of American Soldiers killing people
Tbh Europe messed up Ukraine so bad that I don't blame Zelensky for sucking up to Bibi instead of relying on Europeans and their weird ass foreign policies that's the Epitome of beat around the edges
Lots of "White Liberal Boy" types will tell you that Bush was a war criminal for the War but Clinton isn't for the more Deadly Sanctions
Which is my point, posturing, much like "anti hunting" people who don't actually give a shit about animals, just hate the "bad vibes" they get from Hunters so they see it as immoral
These people are why Obama decided to just Drone Weddings instead of wasting ground troops, he knew very well most of them didn't care about civilians, they just hated the "bad vibes" of American Soldiers killing people
Tbh Europe messed up Ukraine so bad that I don't blame Zelensky for sucking up to Bibi instead of relying on Europeans and their weird ass foreign policies that's the Epitome of beat around the edges
US is indeed holding back. It's strategic restraint from US.
We haven't seen full scale mobilization from US - air, naval and ground.
US has hit 11000 targets in one month and this was all due to precision deep strikes from a very limited mobilization.
Yes they want their forces across the globe but my point is US has mobilised around 25% of their actual capacity and it's restrainting itself from escalating war.
Iran is no Kaido though. Iran Defenses capabilities have taken a massive toll in last one month.
With Gulf, it's not about deep striking capabilities - they don't have it but it would put Iran under more fire than what it faced.
A month ago, Gulf perhaps was like Chopper but right now, it's more like Garlic who can land significant blows to already injured Iran.
As I said earlier, Iran has a leverage - Hormuz. They should use it to gain some points in negotiations but not to bite more than they can chew.
We haven't seen full scale mobilization from US - air, naval and ground.
US has hit 11000 targets in one month and this was all due to precision deep strikes from a very limited mobilization.
Yes they want their forces across the globe but my point is US has mobilised around 25% of their actual capacity and it's restrainting itself from escalating war.
Iran is no Kaido though. Iran Defenses capabilities have taken a massive toll in last one month.
With Gulf, it's not about deep striking capabilities - they don't have it but it would put Iran under more fire than what it faced.
A month ago, Gulf perhaps was like Chopper but right now, it's more like Garlic who can land significant blows to already injured Iran.
As I said earlier, Iran has a leverage - Hormuz. They should use it to gain some points in negotiations but not to bite more than they can chew.
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