Controversial CMV: Kishimoto Writes women better than Lolda
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never happened. Sakura was insanely loyal to her friends.
Unless you're talking about Part I where Sakura was desperately asking Sasuke to take her with him. If you consider that poor writing, idk man you do you. The way she acted then was very well in accordance with a 12 years old who has seen a much as she has, with her dev thus far, and bonded with a teammate as much as Team 7 did with each other, specially as Sasuke was absolutely GEM of a friend to both Naruto and Sakura in Part 1 before Itachi showed up (to the point that Naruto's major MC realization of "nakama power" vs Gaara stemmed from Sasuke's actions, not his own). Betraying anyone wasn't even in her thought. She didn't even know tf she was asking. She was just desperate and didn't want to part
It was immature and flawed and that's why it's good character writing. Like most of Naruto tbh. And it lingers too.
One Piece never tickled that. Even the "deep" topics like racism were as surface level depiction in OP as possible. Character complexities and why they behave the way they do are simple enough to be understood by 13 years olds here
Unless you're talking about Part I where Sakura was desperately asking Sasuke to take her with him. If you consider that poor writing, idk man you do you. The way she acted then was very well in accordance with a 12 years old who has seen a much as she has, with her dev thus far, and bonded with a teammate as much as Team 7 did with each other, specially as Sasuke was absolutely GEM of a friend to both Naruto and Sakura in Part 1 before Itachi showed up (to the point that Naruto's major MC realization of "nakama power" vs Gaara stemmed from Sasuke's actions, not his own). Betraying anyone wasn't even in her thought. She didn't even know tf she was asking. She was just desperate and didn't want to part
It was immature and flawed and that's why it's good character writing. Like most of Naruto tbh. And it lingers too.
One Piece never tickled that. Even the "deep" topics like racism were as surface level depiction in OP as possible. Character complexities and why they behave the way they do are simple enough to be understood by 13 years olds here
Naruto and Sakura's obsession with Sasuke should make sense to anyone who has read Part I properly.
Unironically far better written than Zoro's insane loyalty toward Luffy, which is something with shit development. Or Luffy's inhibit supernatural level of care toward his Nakama. A lot of One Piece characters just come with built in personality traits lol
Unironically far better written than Zoro's insane loyalty toward Luffy, which is something with shit development. Or Luffy's inhibit supernatural level of care toward his Nakama. A lot of One Piece characters just come with built in personality traits lol
Really not. There are only 16 panels of Sakura hitting him in 700 chapters and most are gag (and some are rather wholesome sibling'ish, like after Pain defeat), and some have Naruto behaving like a literal sexual predator. Which is whatever too because that's also a gag.
You've only watched anime. Or read Manga so long ago that you forgot.
On another note, female lead hits MC is a popular trope of 90s. Nami has dozens of scans of it. So does Rukia towards Ichigo for no reason, for example. And so so many more. If someone's major reason for disliking Sakura's entire character over hundreds of other female leads who do the same is a fucking brainless comedy trope, I believe they need to reflect the true cause instead. Something something self-inserted on the crushing MC she rejected and never chose.
PS I don't even think Sakura is a great character lmao. She's rather poorly written and extremely underutilized. It's just the reasons why she's hated are made up. And Nami is shallow with surface level writing too, all while being FAR worse than Sakura in repetitive gags. OP fans just pretend its writing is so deep
You've only watched anime. Or read Manga so long ago that you forgot.
On another note, female lead hits MC is a popular trope of 90s. Nami has dozens of scans of it. So does Rukia towards Ichigo for no reason, for example. And so so many more. If someone's major reason for disliking Sakura's entire character over hundreds of other female leads who do the same is a fucking brainless comedy trope, I believe they need to reflect the true cause instead. Something something self-inserted on the crushing MC she rejected and never chose.
PS I don't even think Sakura is a great character lmao. She's rather poorly written and extremely underutilized. It's just the reasons why she's hated are made up. And Nami is shallow with surface level writing too, all while being FAR worse than Sakura in repetitive gags. OP fans just pretend its writing is so deep
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I'm not going to reread Naruto or rewatch anime to count all the times when this shitty character acted rudely.
Nami is an orphan. She has reasons for that behaviour. You probably never spend time with an orphan, because an orphan's mind makes them not feel or even really know what love means. Especially in Nami's case, whose childhood was bad because of the Arlong crew, who terrorized her village. And instead of befriending everyone, she was lying to everyone. There's thousends reasons for Nami's rude behaviour, because she didn't know how to normally express her emotions. Sakura's family is alive, and they care about her. She was just an arrogant, selfish teenager. And there are no reasons for her rude, obnoxious behavior.
Nami is an orphan. She has reasons for that behaviour. You probably never spend time with an orphan, because an orphan's mind makes them not feel or even really know what love means. Especially in Nami's case, whose childhood was bad because of the Arlong crew, who terrorized her village. And instead of befriending everyone, she was lying to everyone. There's thousends reasons for Nami's rude behaviour, because she didn't know how to normally express her emotions. Sakura's family is alive, and they care about her. She was just an arrogant, selfish teenager. And there are no reasons for her rude, obnoxious behavior.
Bro Counted the Panels 
And again, just a gag. Almost all female leads of 90s do it as much if not much more, including Nami. For little immediate reasons too.
It's just that Sakura happens to be the only one who not only rejected the MC crushing on him but ended up never choosing him and instead always chose and concluded with the deuteragonist who is literally the only deuteragonist in Shonen history with whom MC is obsessed like a puppy rather than the other way around.
Hate was inevitable. But it is what it is
You don't need to. It's counted by people who have read Manga. And Sakura barely does it.
And you missed the entire point of my post. Nami brutalizing Luffy, the man who saved her life and family and city and dream and existence, hundreds of chapters and in-verse years into story over something miniscule and funny isn't because Oda wants to show she's grew up orphan (and if it is then holy shit that's laughably shit writing) It's because it's a funny Japanese 90s manga trope that almost all shonen leads do.
It's not that deep. And trying to make Nami brutalizing Luffy in chapter 1xxx over a derp thing he said deep actually makes her comically stupid as a character, if anything.
You can like whatever you like, but if you're taking cheap comedy that seriously and cherry picking when to take it seriously amd how on top of that, you're just not honest with yourself on reasons why you dislike or like characters. Maybe you don't even realize that
Or if that really is the case, I can only suggest focusing on actual character and plot and writing the authors want to portray rather than once ever 100 chapters comedic scenes to determine quality of writing. Probably will lead to a more pleasant experience
And you missed the entire point of my post. Nami brutalizing Luffy, the man who saved her life and family and city and dream and existence, hundreds of chapters and in-verse years into story over something miniscule and funny isn't because Oda wants to show she's grew up orphan (and if it is then holy shit that's laughably shit writing) It's because it's a funny Japanese 90s manga trope that almost all shonen leads do.
It's not that deep. And trying to make Nami brutalizing Luffy in chapter 1xxx over a derp thing he said deep actually makes her comically stupid as a character, if anything.
You can like whatever you like, but if you're taking cheap comedy that seriously and cherry picking when to take it seriously amd how on top of that, you're just not honest with yourself on reasons why you dislike or like characters. Maybe you don't even realize that
Or if that really is the case, I can only suggest focusing on actual character and plot and writing the authors want to portray rather than once ever 100 chapters comedic scenes to determine quality of writing. Probably will lead to a more pleasant experience
