Chapter Discussion Will imu look better than Madara vs Shinobi alliance

#43
Most likely no.

The scale was too big.

Entire alliance Shinobi, 5 kage, Reanimated Kage's, Nine tailed beasts, Anomly like Sasuke and Naruto.

Madara was messing with them.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#44
Yes, it wasnt his real power
lol comments like this are so laughable they were his real powers.

he simply needed senju cells to sustain rinnegan, its like saying any user of EMS is not their real power cause they have someone elses eyes implanted...... even then rinnegan was madaras from the start. not sure if you knew this but you need both uchiha and senju indra/ashura properties to fully utilize

madara even shuts down your nonsense by telling kabuto: "don't misunderstand, this power wasn't made by you". meaning "the buffs" apart from wood style were already his i guess you can throw in regen, but even then Madara already had hashiramas cells when he was still alive what kabuto did was to revive Madara in his prime youth and not the state in which he died as a frail old man at the end of his life span... even then i believe if im not mistaken was able to use the wood style due to the original cells he got when he was alive but just not on the same scale with being infused with more cells, outside of that his natural abilities and skillset was simply enhanced for sustain ability & chakra management not output. if this is the case like 99% of Narutos powers are not his real powers, he used kurama and bijuu mode 99% of the time, got gifted power creeps but those abilites are all his right?

ffs

if i take steroids and get stronger due to it is it not mine lol
 
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MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#45
Thats false. He was busted with Hashirama cells. Kabuto literally said it. Better than his prime which Madara said "how do you onow my prime?" Or something like that.

Madara was damaged fatally many times by the Kages but... kept fighting because Edo Tensei.
lol i responded to this part in the other post.....

& yeah i forgot madara purposefully ate those attacks when he clearly states this was the purpose of edo tensei to be used......

love when someone uses the source material but only uses a portion and not the full extent of it.
 
#46
lol i responded to this part in the other post.....

& yeah i forgot madara purposefully ate those attacks when he clearly states this was the purpose of edo tensei to be used......

love when someone uses the source material but only uses a portion and not the full extent of it.
Reminder Temari through Madara back 10 feet and didn’t get injured lol 😂
 
#47
lol i responded to this part in the other post.....

& yeah i forgot madara purposefully ate those attacks when he clearly states this was the purpose of edo tensei to be used......

love when someone uses the source material but only uses a portion and not the full extent of it.
When Madara got revived, everyone thought he would get destroyed and killed by alliance now that he can be killed.

But then he turned around and destroyed the alliance in like two chapters. Killed Naruto and Sasuke and capture all 9 jin that quick.

It's was clear edo Madara
1. Was fooling around. Even kages noted that when Madara used perfect susanoo that they had no chance and he was just playing with them before


The thing that is not clear is how strong edo Madara is. He wasn't fighting to the extent of his abilities and waiting for alliance and juubito to kill each other before he made it his move. Although, he already defeated hashitama by this time. The only thing that is confirmed is that he needed to be alive to use the gedo statue and become juubi host and he was at full strength when alive.
 
#48
lol i responded to this part in the other post.....

& yeah i forgot madara purposefully ate those attacks when he clearly states this was the purpose of edo tensei to be used......

love when someone uses the source material but only uses a portion and not the full extent of it.

And you are right. So why should we use this version to scale him his alive version? Not even his Rinnegan Alive version, he is also OP at that point.
 
#49
lol comments like this are so laughable they were his real powers.

he simply needed senju cells to sustain rinnegan, its like saying any user of EMS is not their real power cause they have someone elses eyes implanted...... even then rinnegan was madaras from the start. not sure if you knew this but you need both uchiha and senju indra/ashura properties to fully utilize

madara even shuts down your nonsense by telling kabuto: "don't misunderstand, this power wasn't made by you". meaning "the buffs" apart from wood style were already his i guess you can throw in regen, but even then Madara already had hashiramas cells when he was still alive what kabuto did was to revive Madara in his prime youth and not the state in which he died as a frail old man at the end of his life span... even then i believe if im not mistaken was able to use the wood style due to the original cells he got when he was alive but just not on the same scale with being infused with more cells, outside of that his natural abilities and skillset was simply enhanced for sustain ability & chakra management not output. if this is the case like 99% of Narutos powers are not his real powers, he used kurama and bijuu mode 99% of the time, got gifted power creeps but those abilites are all his right?

ffs

if i take steroids and get stronger due to it is it not mine lol


Dude, but Madara accomplished his rinnegan eyes on the verge of death. Reason he was brought beyond his prime as Edo. Prime Madara never had Rinnegan.
 
#51
I am probably the only one who thinks this wont end up well for Imu...
It is impossible for him to flex like Madara, there arent that many rookies around for him to trash.
We already have a face reveal and even hybrid awakening shown while we have literally nothing from someone like Man with the Burn Scar...
Everyone relevant to Imu's past is already present in Elbaf except for Vivi and even she might show up.
Loki and Luffy are on a break to refuel while Zoro is clean asking for a fight so we might actually get Zoro vs Imu at start until those 2 refuel and we know it is impossible to flex against Zoro...
Impossible? Then what was this?

:risistare:
 
#53
Currently, Imu would have to make quick work of Luffy and Loki to even compare to Madara. Madara humiliated the five Kage, who are the equivalents of like, the Yonko, in verse. Zoro and Sanji aren't enough
Nope, Naruto was stronger than all 5 Kage's. Madara didn't defeat Naruto in R1
 
#54
Imu, on top of his ridiculous speed and strength, could still have a special "can't get hurt" technique that needs to be figured out (same as King). And if he does Loki and Luffy in like nothing then it doesn't matter if Dragon, Mihawk, BB and Shanks rock up together - none of them would be able to do a thing.

Madara was really bad ass though, it required Hashirama to deal with him for a bit. I guess the main characters could somehow Edo Tensei JoyBoy...
 
#55
Imu, on top of his ridiculous speed and strength, could still have a special "can't get hurt" technique that needs to be figured out (same as King). And if he does Loki and Luffy in like nothing then it doesn't matter if Dragon, Mihawk, BB and Shanks rock up together - none of them would be able to do a thing.

Madara was really bad ass though, it required Hashirama to deal with him for a bit. I guess the main characters could somehow Edo Tensei JoyBoy...
Let's be honest, Madara, without the 6th path power, never was able to neg-low diff any of the 5 kage. He defeated them, yes, but all of them were weaker than Naruto. Right now, you can compare both Sanji and Zoro to Kage, but let's be honest, we saw them defeated in manga, which is why it's not the same. Different case here will be Loki, his bounty is 3 billion, and neg-low diffing character of that caliber is a different thing.
 
#56
Let's be honest, Madara, without the 6th path power, never was able to neg-low diff any of the 5 kage. He defeated them, yes, but all of them were weaker than Naruto. Right now, you can compare both Sanji and Zoro to Kage, but let's be honest, we saw them defeated in manga, which is why it's not the same. Different case here will be Loki, his bounty is 3 billion, and neg-low diffing character of that caliber is a different thing.
Neither Zoro or Sanji is yet at the level of kage. They are at the level that might reach Kage post the big war. Top Jonin. I'd say Zoro could be compared to Darui who became Kage post war, perhaps the strongest normal ninja in the world together with Kakashi (omitting all the Gods). Sanji I'd have on the level just below, perhaps also reaching a bit lower level of post war Kage like the stone or mist kages.
 
#57
Neither Zoro or Sanji is yet at the level of kage. They are at the level that might reach Kage post the big war. Top Jonin. I'd say Zoro could be compared to Darui who became Kage post war, perhaps the strongest normal ninja in the world together with Kakashi (omitting all the Gods). Sanji I'd have on the level just below, perhaps also reaching a bit lower level of post war Kage like the stone or mist kages.
Well, Zoro and Sanji are warlords lvl, so you can compare them to Kage. But then again, we saw the defeat of both of them, which is why even now, just their defeat wouldn't be enough to make Imu's hype level comparable to Madara. He needs to do more than that.
But, if we use Madara's Meteor summoning, Imu already did that...still, we thought it was technology. If Imu will use this power and show us that it was his powers(even tech-related), then it will be equal to Madara's meteor:

 
#58
Well, Zoro and Sanji are warlords lvl, so you can compare them to Kage. But then again, we saw the defeat of both of them, which is why even now, just their defeat wouldn't be enough to make Imu's hype level comparable to Madara. He needs to do more than that.
But, if we use Madara's Meteor summoning, Imu already did that...still, we thought it was technology. If Imu will use this power and show us that it was his powers(even tech-related), then it will be equal to Madara's meteor:

Kaguya ≈ Imu
Madara with power ups ≈ Joyboy (?)
Madara ≈ Xebec
Kage ≈ Yonko
Darui, Kakashi, Gai 6th/7th gate ≈ Shichibukai (except Mihawk who refused Yonko/Kage responsibility, same as Sasuke being outside the power system)

So sure, its fair to place Zoro and Sanji at warlord level. They give Jinbei, Hanafuda, Crocodile, Moriah and so on hell. Mihawk, BB, Law would be a really tough task. Difficulty level depending on the match up between skill sets.
 
#59
What would be Imu's equivalent of "would you like these clones to use susanoo or not?"

Imu doesn't seem like he's in the mood to fuck around and play games, he has an objective to fulfill so he can get back to the castle ASAP.
 
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