Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1180 Spoilers Discussion

Who will get negged worse?

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Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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Sanji needs a g4/koh equivalent
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Koh and g4 are both temporary forms that require an excessive amount of armament to be used. Sanji should have a special version of ifrit if not just a straight up new jambe that’s so hot even with the exoskeleton + hardening he can’t keep up for long
Maybe the star version of ifrit?
 
Cruxroux

Cruxroux

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Blazing Lion said:
@Djordje you tagged me a couple of times to get a response and I know it was to troll and slander. But like I said I will wait till raws and full summary to comment. @nik87 @mly90 @Shimotsuki Fenaker @Cruxroux @Crow @Ice devil slayer @ice-flo @HA001

Heres what I make of the whole situation. Imu is very very quick, while Zoro was able to block Sommers attack on the kids he couldn't protect the giants/Gerd from Imu. So he somehow failed Luffy who thought that Zoro being there guaranteed safety.

Zoro using KOH Onigiri against Imu shows the difference in power creep. That is Zoros most basic move and his strongest mode. Compare that to Wano where Zoro started against Kaido with an Onigiri. The progression has been from Pre TS Onigiri to Post TS Rengoku Onigiri to Post Wano KOH Onigiri. I dont know if thr attack is the same as used against King because that one was a ranged attack and here Zoro is right next to the opponent even though the hands and swords are in a different position I think.

Now while people want to slander Zoro with tail blocking the attack, they willfully ignore that Imu has used the same as his weapon in his introduction twice to hit opponents (Cobra and Sabo). So the tail aint the weak part and nor was the tip used to block. On the contrary we can see clear shiver/vibration lines to show the force of the impact on the tail. The tail block looks very similar to how Nasurjuo blocked Rashomon in terms of paneling/placement.

The disappointing part is that Zoro left himself open to counter attack. Granted that hr probably didnt expect to get blocked by the tail but after Wano you expect him to block such attacks with full body haki like he did against Jackpot. And Odas intent here is clear, comparing the attacks against the giants, Zoro and Sanji its clear that the weakest one was used against Zoro although it was supposedly the FVs first named attack in the series. We see that Zoro is conscious (not one shot like the leakers implied) and will probably be involved for other stuff/fight. This is the time stalling or Zoro out of picture shit but without having Zoro KOd etc. For the giants and Sanji though it seems that they will be out for a while, Sanji will probably get back up due to Exo durability and regen and being able to get into a defensive stance.

Am I disappointed, yes in how Oda chose to take Zoro away from the main action. But I think that this arc might have more similarities with DR in terms of the villain (Imu/Doffy) having history with Loki/Law and as such we can expect (Nasurjuo/Pica) to be Zoros arc opponent eventually.

@Salah WG what do you think of the progression I mentioned, is KOH Onigiri Zoros new base from here on out. Can't wait to see KOH 10800 Pound Canon or KOH Sanzen Daisen Sikai.

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My take ain't that complex.

- I never Expected Zoro to win. So him losing here is fine.
- Just because Hajrudin and Sanji attacks looks big doesn't mean they are stronger, Shishisonson and Ashura would clear Zoro Tatsumaki anyday. Some are AP focussed and some are AoE focussed. Not only Hajrudin endurance scales to Luffy gear 2 in post time skip. Even if I were to think Hajrufdin got stronger sanji is the place he is tied to right now for it.
- Talking about Zoro moment, KoH onigiri, yes a strong move, but given it's final boss of series we are talking about. It alright. But what no one is noticing is, Imu blindsided Zoro with the tail and prepared that fire bullet, at point blank range on his head straight. And like always rest are not shown yet but only Zoro, who says 'damnnit' and only one shown to be conscious so far.
- this one is just attention to detail,
But the face which imu flame made.
Now of course properties are different. But it would be not a stretch to say, Moria fruit is connected to Imu power or superior version of Shadow fruit. Because most of the powers are parallels to each other.
- teleporting where shadow is, teleporting where abyss or Gorosei/HK is.
- Power transfer. Moria does it through shadow.
- Moria final attack is literally called Asgaurd. Which is norse linked and we are in elbaf.
 
Redboy776

Redboy776

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Soyz said:
Read what I typed, this is a hint not short spoiler or full summary
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My friend its alright to point at zoro fan but sometime recongnizing the problem can solve so many things. Are zoro haters ready to admit they were wront at least for zoro being down part.

This week Zoro fans were hit by a waves of hate like any no other the goal completely disgrace Zoro but they falled cause the raw wasnt accurately what the spoiler mentioned.


-Zoro and Imu looked at each other
-Zoro attacked Imu
-Imu locked in
-Close up on imus face (Idk if FS was used) and Imu counter attacked
-Imu used his whole tail with advCoC
-they clashed and zoro deflected the tail
-Imu aim a fire shaped into cuting flame at Zoros head then left
-Zoro say damn because he was frustrated that poeple got hurt in his presences
-Choper call Zoro for help moving the injured


No part were Zoro was utterly defeated.
 
Goofball_Your_Nika

Goofball_Your_Nika

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
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Albino 👑 said:
Sanji needs a g4/koh equivalent
:pepebusi:
Koh and g4 are both temporary forms that require an excessive amount of armament to be used. Sanji should have a special version of ifrit if not just a straight up new jambe that’s so hot even with the exoskeleton + hardening he can’t keep up for long
Maybe the star version of ifrit?
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He have Hell Memories
 
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