I need just one competent villain that will make the story and plot interesting.
Bro one shot Zoro and Sanji in his first appearance, so I'd say we're off to a good start lol
This is a good thing to make him much stronger in future fight. But losing is also not an option. For that, Oda could just use Gunkmu.
Is hard to take Imu seriously afterwards if Loki and Luffy are enough here (even if he's not full power)

Like, let's invite Shanks next time to join us and we have the job done:zosleepy:
Calm down bros he won't lose lol

The best Luffy and Loki can do is stall until his time limit runs out and he needs to return to the holy land
 
The best Luffy and Loki can do is stall until his time limit runs out and he needs to return to the holy land
This is not enough. We already on the Final Saga, you need a wake up call, not another disney move. Again this reminded to me Ruro Kenshin anime when Main Villain, who was looking crazy powerful, said that he surrender, because he didn't plan anything. Like it was so bad and not funny at all. When your enemy is an idiot, this is boring.

I said Disney villain, but Disney Villains are better than just another idiot. Disney Villain Scar tried to kill Simba, Disney Villain Jafar was competent and made MC struggle. Disney Villains are better than jokes, which happened in One Piece. From Doffy, we fall into absolute incompetence. Which is boring.
 
This is not enough. We already on the Final Saga, you need a wake up call, not another disney move. Again this reminded to me Ruro Kenshin anime when Main Villain, who was looking crazy powerful, said that he surrender, because he didn't plan anything. Like it was so bad and not funny at all. When your enemy is an idiot, this is boring.

I said Disney villain, but Disney Villains are better than just another idiot. Disney Villain Scar tried to kill Simba, Disney Villain Jafar was competent and made MC struggle. Disney Villains are better than jokes, which happened in One Piece. From Doffy, we fall into absolute incompetence. Which is boring.
I mean Kaido had his goofyness and bad writing motives, but at least Luffy struggles with him a couple of time. (The same with Katakurri).

Saturn on the other hand was a disgrace and a punching bag.
Bro was slow asf.
THANK GOD Imu has flexibility
 
This is not enough. We already on the Final Saga, you need a wake up call, not another disney move. Again this reminded to me Ruro Kenshin anime when Main Villain, who was looking crazy powerful, said that he surrender, because he didn't plan anything. Like it was so bad and not funny at all. When your enemy is an idiot, this is boring.

I said Disney villain, but Disney Villains are better than just another idiot. Disney Villain Scar tried to kill Simba, Disney Villain Jafar was competent and made MC struggle. Disney Villains are better than jokes, which happened in One Piece. From Doffy, we fall into absolute incompetence. Which is boring.
I think you're overreacting my friend, I understand what you're saying, but there's literally 0% chance Imu will lose or even look bad/incompetent here. But also, we need some setup to hype up the final war so Luffy and Loki will get a few hits in, and we'll move on to the next arc.
No you don't understand I need Dragon and Shanks to assist Luffy and Loki here, also add Gaban and The Man Marked by flames

All vs Imu so that way Imu could still be a menacing villain in the future.:funky::moonwalk::suresure:
Bro wants the mural third war in Elbaph :suresure:
 
I mean Kaido had his goofyness and bad writing motives, but at least Luffy struggles with him a couple of time. (The same with Katakurri).

Saturn on the other hand was a disgrace and a punching bag.
Bro was slow asf.
THANK GOD Imu has flexibility
Kaido was definitely not incompetent, he took on an entire army full of Yonko commander + characters for like 100 straight chapters, while carrying Onigashima mid air, and still needed a legendary Nika awakening to lose.

The issue was Oda abandoned his character arc before fully paying it off, which robbed us of a 10/10 villain imo.
 
I think you're overreacting my friend, I understand what you're saying, but there's literally 0% chance Imu will lose or even look bad/incompetent here. But also, we need some setup to hype up the final war so Luffy and Loki will get a few hits in, and we'll move on to the next arc.

Bro wants the mural third war in Elbaph :suresure:
Mark my words Dragon is the only living man who can push Imu to high diff

He will get one showing in the manga and it will be saving Luffy and dying

Next chapter ends with a silhouette looking west and "..."
 
I mean Kaido had his goofyness and bad writing motives, but at least Luffy struggles with him a couple of time. (The same with Katakurri).

Saturn on the other hand was a disgrace and a punching bag.
Bro was slow asf.
THANK GOD Imu has flexibility
My problem with Kaido was the fact that he threw Luffy into jail, and Luffy was there just have fun. Also battle against Kaido begined with him crying when scabards was cutting him.

Oda stopped doing 2 chapter straight up fights, so I assume Imu will win by the end, or Luffy will step in.

But who knows he might change his tune.
My thoughts exactly. I believe Imu will turn into monster form from the mural, and everyone will be shocked and remember Mural. Also, I believe he will be bigger than Loki in his dragon form.
I think you're overreacting my friend, I understand what you're saying, but there's literally 0% chance Imu will lose or even look bad/incompetent here. But also, we need some setup to hype up the final war so Luffy and Loki will get a few hits in, and we'll move on to the next arc.
No, the problem is how the author made the scaling in power level already. If Shanks had never defeated Loki, his power would be unknown, so his hype would be built from killing Harold. Instead, Oda rides Shanks again, which establishes a simple rule: struggling against Loki means that Shanks is maybe on the same level or even stronger that person who is struggling. So to defeat Imu, for example, all you need is to call Shanks. Which makes the "final" villain into a joke. No one was able to defeat Aizen, except Ichigo, and no one was able to defeat Madara and Kaguya except MC. But if Kakashi was able to solo Madara, or Jiraya was able to solo Pain, then it's kinda downplays the whole tension, turning it into fake tension.
 
Kaido was definitely not incompetent, he took on an entire army full of Yonko commander + characters for like 100 straight chapters, while carrying Onigashima mid air, and still needed a legendary Nika awakening to lose.

The issue was Oda abandoned his character arc before fully paying it off, which robbed us of a 10/10 villain imo.
Is like the only good thing Oda did with Kaido is that at least he portrayed him POWERFUL. There's not denying that.

After the Admirals and Whitebeard, Kaido was the next character that I said to myself "how can we beat this guy"??

Guy is a freaking Dragon, what's more powerful than that, But Oda gave him stamina, endurance, haki, speed etc... so again, there's not denying that.

I just hope Kaido isn't the last, and Oda can make the same with Imu.
 
Nah, he lost.



Luffy made it clear that he was physically stronger than Katakuri in Gear 4. The only thing preventing his win was FS.
Yes, he lost, and maybe he would've anyway, but in this specific fight, he didn't want to win in the end.
Mark my words Dragon is the only living man who can push Imu to high diff

He will get one showing in the manga and it will be saving Luffy and dying

Next chapter ends with a silhouette looking west and "..."
Good to see another Dragon believer around here. Our time will come soon :myman:
 
No, the problem is how the author made the scaling in power level already. If Shanks had never defeated Loki, his power would be unknown, so his hype would be built from killing Harold. Instead, Oda rides Shanks again, which establishes a simple rule: struggling against Loki means that Shanks is maybe on the same level or even stronger that person who is struggling. So to defeat Imu, for example, all you need is to call Shanks. Which makes the "final" villain into a joke. No one was able to defeat Aizen, except Ichigo, and no one was able to defeat Madara and Kaguya except MC. But if Kakashi was able to solo Madara, or Jiraya was able to solo Pain, then it's kinda downplays the whole tension, turning it into fake tension.
I know you won't believe me, but Oda's never even thought about it the way you just laid out. Try to think outside of powerscaling mindset bro
 
Is like the only good thing Oda did with Kaido is that at least he portrayed him POWERFUL. There's not denying that.

After the Admirals and Whitebeard, Kaido was the next character that I said to myself "how can we beat this guy"??

Guy is a freaking Dragon, what's more powerful than that, But Oda gave him stamina, endurance, haki, speed etc... so again, there's not denying that.

I just hope Kaido isn't the last, and Oda can make the same with Imu.
Kaido and Akainu, from the beginning, got the title of fake tension bringers: both were stopped by Shanks. Imu is probably the only character who can create the needed tension right now in the story. Gorosei was able to do that too, but Oda decided to turn them into incompetent clowns.
Bro wants the mural third war in Elbaph
Foreshadowing of the final war, yes. As it should be... the whole arc was nothing else than build up for this one moment. You need to understand what you should be afraid.

Also, another example of Fake Tension is Black Beard. If Oda wanted to make him a competent villain, he would never show him struggling against Law, especially after the scene where Shanks one-shots Kid.
 
Kaido and Akainu, from the beginning, got the title of fake tension bringers: both were stopped by Shanks. Imu is probably the only character who can create the needed tension right now in the story. Gorosei was able to do that too, but Oda decided to turn them into incompetent clowns.

Foreshadowing of the final war, yes. As it should be... the whole arc was nothing else than build up for this one moment. You need to understand what you should be afraid.

Also, another example of Fake Tension is Black Beard. If Oda wanted to make him a competent villain, he would never show him struggling against Law, especially after the scene where Shanks one-shots Kid.
What did Shanks do to you bro? 😭😭😭
 
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