Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1181: A GOD AND A DEVIL

[nik87]

How did you come to this conclusion from this chapter?

He makes people stronger with pacts you got the whole thing wrong, in exchange for their lifespan which I assume is how he lived for so long.

Your theory has a hole in it, 14 years ago he lost Harald and never replaced him and then now Saturn and Garling moved up the ranks to replace him but it left a hole in his pact users, so hes down 2 users now which means according to you hes weaker then he was 14 years ago? And he did it willingly with Saturn?

Lmao.

Based on past experiences with Moriah and Big Mom.
Both are stealing something from others in order to make themselves more powerful.
Same with Imu, he steals their will and their lifespan but will is the most important here in order to power himself up.

Yes, Imu is weaker than 14 years ago in your example but that only seems relevant to you becuase you react on weekly basis.
You do not see the greater picture, if he makes it out of Elbaf alive, he will forge more pacts.
The reason he lives so long is probably Eternal Youth from Ope no Mi...

 

[Fujishiro]

Based on past experiences with Moriah and Big Mom.
Both are stealing something from others in order to make themselves more powerful.
Same with Imu, he steals their will and their lifespan but will is the most important here in order to power himself up.

They still have their wills wtf are you waffling about and Imu makes others stronger with his pact. Thats already a big deviation from BM and Moriah.

Yes, Imu is weaker than 14 years ago in your example but that only seems relevant to you becuase you react on weekly basis.
You do not see the greater picture, if he makes it out of Elbaf alive, he will forge more pacts.
The reason he lives so long is probably Eternal Youth from Ope no Mi...

Why didn’t he forge more pacts in the past 14 years if it makes him stronger mister big picture guy?

 

[BaboonMihawk]

Sanji fainted

 

[nik87]

They still have their wills wtf are you waffling about and Imu makes others stronger with his pact. Thats already a big deviation from BM and Moriah.

Fuji-chin... Re-read the last chapter before asking me what I am waffling about...
No deviation whatsoever... Moriah made Zobmies far more powerful than they were also...
As I said, this is nothing new but yall are doing a great job acting like this is really something new.

Why didn’t he forge more pacts in the past 14 years if it makes him stronger mister big picture guy?

It's okay if you dont get it...

 

[vikas]

Btw why the fuck Imu calls Joy Boy... Joy Boy?

Joy Boy is supposed to be a general name, a legendary one, but Imu knew the dude: he didn't have a name? And the same for Emeth, really.

He japanese

 

[FutureWarrior123]

Ever since Oda introduced Imu's real design and gave him so characteristics, he's really growing as a very entertaining antagonist imo.

Just look at this part:

How diabolic is it to portray yourself as the sole victim who suffered the most of Harald's death, even though YOU were the one responsible for his death? He was saying all that stuff in front of Harald's son, that's truly evil lmao.

Dude is the textbook definition of a narcissist, but not in the exaggerated mustache twirling cackling villain trope way like many One Piece villains fit under.

 

[Fujishiro]

Fuji-chin... Re-read the last chapter before asking me what I am waffling about...
No deviation whatsoever... Moriah made Zobmies far more powerful than they were also...
As I said, this is nothing new but yall are doing a great job acting like this is really something new

Moriah used others shadows he stole from others to make zombies stronger.

Imu is infusing others with his own power to make them stronger. Hes not taking power from them.

That’s a pretty big difference.

It's okay if you dont get it...

You do this all the time when you have no argument.

 

[nik87]

Moriah used others shadows he stole from others to make zombies stronger.

Imu is infusing others with his own power to make them stronger. Hes not taking power from them.

That’s a pretty big difference.

I guess you want identical powers down to a T, huh?

You do this all the time when you have no argument.

I do it each time when I see that you arent getting it...
...but I'll help you out - he cannot forge pacts as he sees fit.
Figure out why. Hint - It is in the last chapter but also known from before.

 

[Fujishiro]

I guess you want identical powers down to a T, huh?


I do it each time when I see that you arent getting it...
...but I'll help you out - he cannot forge pacts as he sees fit.
Figure out why. Hint - It is in the last chapter but also known from before.

He can literally take a random CD and forge a pact with them. Or any random power hungry individual. And let’s not act like they are in shortage.

 

[Fujishiro]

And now you’re saying he can’t do it at will but earlier you said he will make more pacts if he makes it out of this arc lmao.

 

[nik87]

He can literally take a random CD and forge a pact with them. Or any random power hungry individual. And let’s not act like they are in shortage.

Every scum isnt willing to be obedient to someone else.
They have to willingly submit their will.
Other than that, it is up to Oda.

 

[Fujishiro]

Every scum isnt willing to be obedient to someone else.
They have to willingly submit their will.
Other than that, it is up to Oda.

For more power? They don’t need to know the details, Harald didnt.

 

[eamonpro]

Dude is the textbook definition of a narcissist, but not in the exaggerated mustache twirling cackling villain trope way like many One Piece villains fit under.

That line did strike me as some shit some parents ive known would say to their kid

 

[kekaro]

Found a Picture to clear Up the confusion of some people: what i described in the spoiler thread with words

 

[eamonpro]

Every scum isnt willing to be obedient to someone else.
They have to willingly submit their will.
Other than that, it is up to Oda.

I think with the motivation of "envy" he discussed most or all tenryuubito could be coaxed into it; their ideology is all "me me me i deserve it all" all hes gotta do is say "look how messed up it is that the humans are rebelling, dont you want the strength to put them in their place?" Not all scum are obedient, but the celestials basically seem designed to create petty jealous dickheads out of their children

 

[Blazing Lionv2.5]

It’s real

This is diabolical and satanic 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Raiden7]

Don't know if it was stated by someone already but Imu used the Black Flames to defend himself against Loki's last attack.

It shows how those flames really are pretty useful in both offense and defence. You can see he created something like a black flame half sphere in front of him and it's dissolving after the attack. From what we've seen I like Imu fight style, seems like he can use those flames for anything.

 

[kekaro]

Don't know if it was stated by someone already but Imu used the Black Flames to defend himself against Loki's last attack.

It shows how those flames really are pretty useful in both offense and defence. You can see he created something like a black flame half sphere in front of him and it's dissolving after the attack. From what we've seen I like Imu fight style, seems like he can use those flames for anything.

Bro doing the ameratasu susano strats @ZenZu @TheAncientCenturion

 

[Blazing Lionv2.5]

Fortunately, no one made giga clowns out of themselves or still continuing to so because of that

What was the discussion about?

 

[kekaro]

What was the discussion about?

Something so filler we forgot already tbh