Questions & Mysteries What was so impressive about Loki’s performance this chapter?

[Djordje]

This fucking coward is so butthurt cant even answer simple question I asked

@Donquixote Shivercalero

 

[HerreraIsBack]

It is the best form suited for combat

Full zoan>hybrid>base strength wise

Hybrid>full zoan>base combat wise

Strength wise yes. Combat wise not necessarily true. Specially Loki facing small opponents he said his full zoan form is hard to fight despite being able to see with bandages on his eyes, classic Oda.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

He used fdd


we don’t know if Loki has his own version of fdd so far it seems like no

This doesn't matter

 

[Djordje]

Let me phrase it better, he used black flames to protect himself, rather than blocking it.

otherwise he would‘ve taken a Thorheim point blank and that could‘ve caused issues, even for Imu

Well yeah but I under impression he still took some damage from explosion. You dont need direct hit to take damage from explosion . Dont know just my opinion , could be wrong.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Let me phrase it better, he used black flames to protect himself, rather than blocking it.

otherwise he would‘ve taken a Thorheim point blank and that could‘ve caused issues, even for Imu

But yea there are signs of him being affected by it.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Again you are the one using Zoro and Sanji, downplaying them to somehow upscale Loki.

Zoro and Sanji has no clear sign of defeat. It was a normal push away and then Imu changes focus. Kaido did that tons of times with Luffy and I doubt you called that out.

You have Loki agenda and is trying so hard to not admit it.

Okay bud.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

>Clashing two times equally with omen boosted Imu (for reminder Imu blocked KoH dragon mode with his tail without even facing it)
>shrugging off (keeps fighting without apparent issue) Imu attacks, when wings were out of the fight from a single hit
>sending Imu's flying kilometers, making him bloody, grunt and cough

While in base btw. Against an opponent Gaban and Luffy highlighted to be way above anyone else in the verse.

I will also add that so far Oda hasn't shown Imu able to overpower base Loki, even with his muscles boosted by omen he was only matching Loki's swing.

The hits he landed were through his mobility and being able to pull any bullshit out of his weapon.
And that was the consequence of Imu being caught lacking for a moment :

Now to be clear :
Imu has the upper hand looking at the chapter as a whole, but I doubt anyone expected base Loki to be relative to Imu to begin with so that's arguing with ghosts. I rate Loki super high yet I expected him to go hybrid immediately or be forced into it after a few pages.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

You know he’s getting molested next chapter, right

you imu simps are bizarre

 

[WaidoWSC]

I will also add that so far Oda hasn't shown Imu able to overpower base Loki, even with his muscles boosted by omen he was only matching Loki's swing.

The hits he landed were through his mobility and being able to pull any bullshit out of his weapon.
And that was the consequence of Imu being caught lacking for a moment :

Now to be clear :
Imu has the upper hand looking at the chapter as a whole, but I doubt anyone expected base Loki to be relative to Imu to begin with so that's arguing with ghosts. I rate Loki super high yet I expected him to go hybrid immediately or be forced into it after a few pages.

What‘s base Loki?

You mean Loki in his human form (which he is already strong), but don‘t act like he doesn‘t have a hammer with a strong DF in Ragnir.

Also there is no way you believed Loki would‘ve gone into his Hybrid form, that early especially when he just went into his Zoan form at the end of the chapter.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Yeah they might be some indication, that he was indeed affected by it, but to be frank it is a bit too inconclusive, but you could definitely interpret, that it took same tool on Imu.

I am not 100% sure, but since the inconclusiveness, you can interpret it like so

I wouldn't say inconclusiveness. We can clearly see by his stare that he was clean before the attack and then after he has some bruises and burn on his face. So he blocked the attack but still suffered from the heat or something.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

You mean Loki in his human form

Ancient Giant. More respect please. He isn't a mere human.

 

[WaidoWSC]

I wouldn't say inconclusiveness. We can clearly see by his stare that he was clean before the attack and then after he has some bruises and burn on his face. So he blocked the attack but still suffered from the heat or something.

Maybe you are right, but he wasn‘t clean before the attack.

You can literally see the blood on his left side of Imu’s face when he said Nidhogg with a serious face, the panel next of you see Niddhogg creating the blast, the next panel Imu is using his finger for a omen & finally after the last panel of the chapter where he is smiling you see the bruise, which coincidentally are pairing up with the side Imu bleed after he was pushed into the Adam tree

For me it‘s inconclusive, BUT your interpretation might be likely and correct

 

[TheD.]

This doesn't matter

Yes it does matter


regular form dragon Kaido wasnt performing as well as his hybrid form


his fdd was his strongest attack was because it was his ult

Saying it doesn’t matter shows the level of iq and bias im working with here

 

[TheD.]

Maybe you are right, but he wasn‘t clean before the attack.

You can literally see the blood on his left side of Imu’s face when he said Nidhogg with a serious face, the panel next of you see Niddhogg creating the blast, the next panel Imu is using his finger for a omen & finally after the last panel of the chapter where he is smiling you see the bruise, which coincidentally are pairing up with the side Imu bleed after he was pushed into the Adam tree

He’s coping

 

[TheD.]

Strength wise yes. Combat wise not necessarily true. Specially Loki facing small opponents he said his full zoan form is hard to fight despite being able to see with bandages on his eyes, classic Oda.

Oda is weird for giving Loki special eyes that contribute nothing to how he fights


but hybrid form is the best suited for combat


dragon form Kaido was getting cooked too much and looked by far the worst even compared to his base form


he looked the best against Luffy using his hybrid form

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

What‘s base Loki?

You mean Loki in his human form (which he is already strong), but don‘t act like he doesn‘t have a hammer with a strong DF in Ragnir.

I mean Ragnir is part of the arsenal he always has with him so , like I consider base Zoro to be without KOH but his 3 swords or Luffy without G4/G5 to be his base because of how casually he can use G2-G3. My point is that Loki logically has a strong form up his sleeve he has yet to use. For non-transformed Zoan users we always used "base".

Also there is no way you believed Loki would‘ve gone into his Hybrid form, that early especially when he just went into his Zoan form at the end of the chapter.

Well that was a post of mine from a few hours before the spoilers released, where we were still speculating based on hints.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...the-waiting-room.78017/page-1017#post-6686931
Oda had Zoro use KoH right off the bat, so I thought Oda could have Loki go hybrid right at the beginning to show how much of a threat Imu is.

 

[WaidoWSC]

I mean Ragnir is part of the arsenal he always has with him so , like I consider base Zoro to be without KOH but his 3 swords or Luffy without G4/G5 to be his base because of how casually he can use G2-G3. My point is that Loki logically has a strong form up his sleeve he has yet to use. For non-transformed Zoan users we always used "base".

Well that was a post of mine from a few hours before the spoilers released, where we were still speculating based on hints.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...the-waiting-room.78017/page-1017#post-6686931
Oda had Zoro use KoH right off the bat, so I thought Oda could have Loki go hybrid right at the beginning to show how much of a threat Imu is.

Fair enough

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Herrera is a known troll. Why bother debating with them seriously?

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Maybe you are right, but he wasn‘t clean before the attack.

You can literally see the blood on his left side of Imu’s face when he said Nidhogg with a serious face, the panel next of you see Niddhogg creating the blast, the next panel Imu is using his finger for a omen & finally after the last panel of the chapter where he is smiling you see the bruise, which coincidentally are pairing up with the side Imu bleed after he was pushed into the Adam tree

For me it‘s inconclusive, BUT your interpretation might be likely and correct

Yes where did the bleeding go? Probably the heat evaporated it?

Yes it does matter


regular form dragon Kaido wasnt performing as well as his hybrid form


his fdd was his strongest attack was because it was his ult

Saying it doesn’t matter shows the level of iq and bias im working with here

Based on what you say that? See the fucking fight again. Kaido is constantly changing forms (except base) and fighting well both in Hybrid and Animal one. He ate up Luffy in hybrid. Once he got drunk his animal form hurricane is much stronger and Luffy can't do shit about it.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Herrera is a known troll. Why bother debating with them seriously?

You the only troll around here

Oda is weird for giving Loki special eyes that contribute nothing to how he fights


but hybrid form is the best suited for combat


dragon form Kaido was getting cooked too much and looked by far the worst even compared to his base form


he looked the best against Luffy using his hybrid form

Just because his animal form took some beating and is easier to target doesn't make it weaker. Read the fight again and Oda made it clear about that.