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Apollo

The Sol King
Inserting flashbacks at bad times, overusing silhouettes, fake hype... is Oda a haramball practicioner in the manga industry?
Is Haramanga a thing now?
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Oda is truly a pioneer. Now we will get a new generation of Haramangaka. The world is not ready for these tactics.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Why are we trying to overcomplicate Aokiji's Ice fruit?
xD
Aokiji's fruit has always been the ability to freeze. Which by default is the ability to directly manipulate temperature.

It's different from Akainu's or Kizaru's.
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

"You know, MonsterZoro predicted all of this?"
They also told me that Zoro was the real king of hell, that Imu would remember his face..
We know how it ended, with all respect to Nik kun...
:josad:
I think that once Zoro and Sanji fully unlock Adv CoC here, Imu will recognize them.

Luffy and Loki are both Haki monsters, and... well, there's only one Ragnir in the world.

When Imu saw Luffy and Blackbeard in the newspaper after marineford, he asked who they were.

The moment Emeth pulled the rope, Imu screamed Joy Boy.

Imu sees more with Observation Haki than his eyes, IMO. I believe Loki is the same. And Luffy to an extent.

Oda is going to have Zoro/Sanji unlock Adv CoC fully at the same time. Wiiiiings.
 
I believe this to be the case too. However this just goes in line with what I'm saying.

Those slow deep freezes is him lowering temperature to a greater degree. Ice itself is not as big a threat as Magma or Lasers.
Yeah, hence i guess it doesn't matter that Ragnir's ice is unbreakable. Kuzan's ice doesn't need to be unbreakable, because once you turned into a chunk of ice by Kuzan, you wished to be unbreakable. Just look at how Jozu's arm broke off accidentally by falling to the ground after the freeze. At the same time, Kuzan's cold is potent enough to cover Akainu's body in scars through his awakened Magma fruit. With Haki equalized, this is as potent as it can get in terms of cold.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Ragnir's ice --> can't dmg Gunko

Kuzan's cold --> can scar Magma man

Ragnir is just kuzan upscale. Simple as.
Nah Ragnir's is legit magic ice. It goes beyond the realm of temperature, it's raw hax.

It's like spawning a spell.
 
Yeah, hence i guess it doesn't matter that Ragnir's ice is unbreakable. Kuzan's ice doesn't need to be unbreakable, because once you turned into a chunk of ice by Kuzan, you wished to be unbreakable. Just look at how Jozu's arm broke off accidentally by falling to the ground after the freeze. At the same time, Kuzan's cold is potent enough to cover Akainu's body in scars through his awakened Magma fruit. With Haki equalized, this is as potent as it can get in terms of cold.
Also, Aokiji's ice Is special too.

Akainu's magma could fucking BURN WATER and Aokiji's ice could counter It.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Yeah, hence i guess it doesn't matter that Ragnir's ice is unbreakable. Kuzan's ice doesn't need to be unbreakable, because once you turned into a chunk of ice by Kuzan, you wished to be unbreakable. Just look at how Jozu's arm broke off accidentally by falling to the ground after the freeze. At the same time, Kuzan's cold is potent enough to cover Akainu's body in scars through his awakened Magma fruit. With Haki equalized, this is as potent as it can get in terms of cold.
Ice is easily a weaker element than magma and light, however the ability to directly manipulate and lower temperature at will is potentially stronger than all 3.
 
I always assumed Oven's fruit is limited by his own tolerance for temperature since he is not a logia. So he can't heat up to a million degrees since his body wouldn't survive those temperatures, even if he could do it in theory.

Unless I forgot and he can heat things without his body heating up.
Dude i think you described sanji lol i dont think oven works like that
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

"You know, MonsterZoro predicted all of this?"
it will probably be used to info dump about Imu.

Gunko clearly has a special relationship with him

Gunko also seems to be Shamrock’s #2, so there’s a possibility we could get more figarland info as well.
Loki's flashback was a Harald Rocks Loki flashback.

Brook's flashback is a Brook Shuri/Gunko Imu flashback.
 
Good on Loki for his continued fight with Imu. Not the greatest placement of Brook and Gunko's backstory, but better now than even later. Props to Loki and Ragnir for Gunko still being in the ice. Not sure how Gunko gets out now cause I can't really picture Loki letting her out. Brook has ice powers, but I'd be pretty shocked if he can free her. We'll see soon enough I suppose.
 
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