Controversial Be smart and quit One Piece OR admit you love it

[Fujishiro]

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Just look at the difference of portrayal.
Big Mom, Kaido, Whitebeard broke Imu to pieces (Imu was only saved thanks to his regen gimmick) and they faced no consequences. Imu also resorted to using DR Xebec to face Roger and Garp. I'm not 100% sure but I got impression that actually DR Xebec > Imu himself, that's why Imu let DR Xebec to do the big task.

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Aizen basically low diff 4 captains at once, including Kyoraku. Not only low diffing them, he also trolled them with Hinamori bullshit.

Aizen clearly embarrassed the captains more than Imu did in God's Valley imo.
Aizen clearly low diffed the captains, while Imu never beating the 6 GV top tiers.

Literally Gaban said that hes never felt haki like this ( refering to Imu's) ever, not even on GV.

So no.

DR Xebec is not > Imu lmao.

 

[Blahmigooo]

Literally Gaban said that hes never felt haki like this ( refering to Imu's) ever, not even on GV.

So no.

DR Xebec is not > Imu lmao.

He's current agenda is all about downplaying Loki.
Ofc he will say some shit like that.
When Imu himself needs to be downplay inorder to downscale Loki. It's really over.....

 

[ZenZu]

No ichigo was trying to conserve his powers. Hence he wanted to finish dordoni with minimum power possible initially. An all out bankai ichigo will make short work of dordoni.

Byakuya got defeated by ichigo is SS arc and doesn't have ichigo's growth rate. Max he is bankai ichigo level in HM.

He's a Hitsugaya super fan, let him be bro. Dordoni never even fought Bankai Ichigo, it was made a plot point that he was holding back the entire time and then went full power for one moment to end the fight.

Bankai Ichigo was bodying Yami like he was a fodder, so it was already established Bankai Ichigo would comfortably make the Espada Rank at the beginning of the arc. He didn't get weaker. The competition simply got stronger, specifically the Espada Kubo drew for Ichigo to take on were elite all around CQC specialists, no gimmicks. Bankai alone was not cutting it anymore like it did for the likes of Byakuya because they had zero problems keeping up, Ichigo's whole thing in Bankai is his speed. He would run circles around Hitsugaya without even requiring the Hollow Mask.

R1 Ulquiorra low diffed a much stronger post Grimmjow fight Hollow Mask Bankai Ichigo. By this point Bankai Ichigo without Hollow Mask could keep up with Base Ulquiorra just like Base Grimmjow could. Prior to that fight Bankai Ichigo was neg diff material to Ulquiorra, so you see Ichigo essentially became a Grimmjow lvl fighter the second time around so this Bankai Ichigo is much much stronger than the one that was bodying Yami at the start of the arc.

This is tiers above what Hitsugaya can handle as far as CQC goes.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

He's a Hitsugaya super fan, let him be bro. Dordoni never even fought Bankai Ichigo, it was made a plot point that he was holding back the entire time and then went full power for one moment to end the fight.

Bankai Ichigo was bodying Yami like he was a fodder, so it was already established Bankai Ichigo would comfortably make the Espada Rank at the beginning of the arc. He didn't get weaker. The competition simply got stronger, specifically the Espada Kubo drew for Ichigo to take on were elite all around CQC specialists, no gimmicks. Bankai alone was not cutting it anymore like it did for the likes of Byakuya because they had zero problems keeping up, Ichigo's whole thing in Bankai is his speed. He would run circles around Hitsugaya without even requiring the Hollow Mask.

R1 Ulquiorra low diffed a much stronger post Grimmjow fight Hollow Mask Bankai Ichigo. By this point Bankai Ichigo without Hollow Mask could keep up with Base Ulquiorra just like Base Grimmjow could. Prior to that fight Bankai Ichigo was neg diff material to Ulquiorra, so you see Ichigo essentially became a Grimmjow lvl fighter the second time around so this Bankai Ichigo is much much stronger than the one that was bodying Yami at the start of the arc.

This is tiers above what Hitsugaya can handle as far as CQC goes.

When I first read bleach , I had ulquiorra even in R1 about all espadas sans baraggan and grimmjow above halibel and nnoitra, Even grimm vs starrk was debatable for me. Grimmjow was more complete fighter thank nnoitra or haliber let it aggression , raw power , heirro , abilities etc.

 

[Blackbeard]

He's a Hitsugaya super fan, let him be bro. Dordoni never even fought Bankai Ichigo, it was made a plot point that he was holding back the entire time and then went full power for one moment to end the fight.

Bankai Ichigo was bodying Yami like he was a fodder, so it was already established Bankai Ichigo would comfortably make the Espada Rank at the beginning of the arc. He didn't get weaker. The competition simply got stronger, specifically the Espada Kubo drew for Ichigo to take on were elite all around CQC specialists, no gimmicks. Bankai alone was not cutting it anymore like it did for the likes of Byakuya because they had zero problems keeping up, Ichigo's whole thing in Bankai is his speed. He would run circles around Hitsugaya without even requiring the Hollow Mask.

R1 Ulquiorra low diffed a much stronger post Grimmjow fight Hollow Mask Bankai Ichigo. By this point Bankai Ichigo without Hollow Mask could keep up with Base Ulquiorra just like Base Grimmjow could. Prior to that fight Bankai Ichigo was neg diff material to Ulquiorra, so you see Ichigo essentially became a Grimmjow lvl fighter the second time around so this Bankai Ichigo is much much stronger than the one that was bodying Yami at the start of the arc.

This is tiers above what Hitsugaya can handle as far as CQC goes.

How difficult would it be for Base Ichibe to Burp-diff all 10 Espada?

 

[Topi Jerami]

Literally Gaban said that hes never felt haki like this ( refering to Imu's) ever, not even on GV.

So no.

DR Xebec is not > Imu lmao.

Was Imu not on God Valley? Lmao use your brain

He's current agenda is all about downplaying Loki.
Ofc he will say some shit like that.
When Imu himself needs to be downplay inorder to downscale Loki. It's really over.....

Not my fault Oda made Imu looks underwhelming af
His debut was stalled by non hybrid Loki, twerked to Joyboy and failed to break ice
Compare him to W7 Lucci who bodied Luffy and Zoro together
W7 Lucci's aura is levels above Imu.

 

[ZenZu]

When I first read bleach , I had ulquiorra even in R1 about all espadas sans baraggan and grimmjow above halibel and nnoitra, Even grimm vs starrk was debatable for me. Grimmjow was more complete fighter thank nnoitra or haliber let it aggression , raw power , heirro , abilities etc.

By feats it is very debatable. If you follow the scale in my post the version of Hollowfied Bankai Ichigo R1 Ulq low diffed is >>> the Bankai Ichigo from SS and beginning of arrancar arc, and he was already comfortably Captain class and Espada class then.

>Bankai Ichigo could low diff Base Yami
>Bankai Ichigo was low diff fight for Base Grimmjow
>Bankai Ichigo was neg diff for Base Ulq
>Post Grimmjow fight Bankai Ichigo could match Base Ulq

His growth was considerable. And even with all these multipliers R1 absolutely negged Ichigo.

 

[Blax Blah]

By feats it is very debatable. If you follow the scale in my post the version of Hollowfied Bankai Ichigo R1 Ulq low diffed is >>> the Bankai Ichigo from SS and beginning of arrancar arc, and he was already comfortably Captain class and Espada class then.

>Bankai Ichigo could low diff Base Yami
>Bankai Ichigo was low diff fight for Base Grimmjow
>Bankai Ichigo was neg diff for Base Ulq
>Post Grimmjow fight Bankai Ichigo could match Base Ulq

His growth was considerable. And even with all these multipliers R1 absolutely negged Ichigo.

Idk how you guys powerscale bleach, to me it looks like random stuff happening

 

[Topi Jerami]

When I first read bleach , I had ulquiorra even in R1 about all espadas sans baraggan and grimmjow above halibel and nnoitra, Even grimm vs starrk was debatable for me. Grimmjow was more complete fighter thank nnoitra or haliber let it aggression , raw power , heirro , abilities etc.

Grimmjhow was like Jack, he got more focus thanks to being big bad of the arc
Nnoitra and Harribel was like King and Queen, less focus because their purpose was supporting antagonist

 

[ZenZu]

Idk how you guys powerscale bleach, to me it looks like random stuff happening

It is

 

[Blax Blah]

It is

So what logic is there to base scaling on?

 

[Blackbeard]

Only thing Clorox nailed was volume covers.

 

[ZenZu]

So what logic is there to base scaling on?

Ichigo, you can't get lost in any other aura scaling because Kubo just does whatever he wants. Stick to scaling off Ichigo since he's the common denominator and it's the closest thing to objective you can get for Bleach, even though it's still flawed.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Grimmjhow was like Jack, he got more focus thanks to being big bad of the arc
Nnoitra and Harribel was like King and Queen, less focus because their purpose was supporting antagonist

Nah look at baraggan. He was broken as fuck. I am not sure if even ulquiorra can defeat him.

 

[Logiko]

Not my fault Oda made Imu looks underwhelming af

He does not. You read the wrong chapter.

His debut was stalled by non hybrid Loki, twerked to Joyboy and failed to break ice

Powerscaling to judge the coherency of the story. Your opinion here is meaningless.

So what logic is there to base scaling on?

None. One Piece can't be powerscaled by these guyz. One Piece requires to take into account parameters within characters that these powerscalers are not build to understand. (empathy/emotional state/mindset/values/hidden character arc/etc.)

 

[Juanpiz]

Only thing Clorox nailed was volume covers.

And Soundtrack

 

[ZenZu]

Grimmjhow was like Jack, he got more focus thanks to being big bad of the arc
Nnoitra and Harribel was like King and Queen, less focus because their purpose was supporting antagonist

Jack has trash feats though and got defeated by some minor side character. A more apt comparison would be Grimmjow is like Katakuri.

 

[Juanpiz]

Jack has trash feats though and got defeated by some minor side character. A more apt comparison would be Grimmjow is like Katakuri.

Even time and Dirty Tricks couldnt help Poor elephant

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

By feats it is very debatable. If you follow the scale in my post the version of Hollowfied Bankai Ichigo R1 Ulq low diffed is >>> the Bankai Ichigo from SS and beginning of arrancar arc, and he was already comfortably Captain class and Espada class then.

>Bankai Ichigo could low diff Base Yami
>Bankai Ichigo was low diff fight for Base Grimmjow
>Bankai Ichigo was neg diff for Base Ulq
>Post Grimmjow fight Bankai Ichigo could match Base Ulq

His growth was considerable. And even with all these multipliers R1 absolutely negged Ichigo.

You guys are making me want to reread Bleach and catch up before TYBW s4

 

[ZenZu]

Even time and Dirty Tricks couldnt help Poor elephant

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