Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1185 : Leave Them Be

[soupongo]

She was made strong by a god like being, that's what we know so far, everything else is coping
We have no reason to believe they have contributed anything to their growth other than sucking Imu's D

What Imu power did Gunko use against Jinbei though? She just used her DF power, and that's a YC1 tier feat/portrayal, Imu boosts can only just improve her standing at this point. If we assume Shamrock is a solid, up there top tier, Gunko who he was introduced withhim being in that ballpark seems reasonable, imo. She's not like Super Sommers and Killingham who mostly have taken L's.

Also, it's not like they're real people at the end of the day. We can't disqualify them for doping. That's just the powers they'll now have in the story.
(I do think Regen is a shitty power and Oda was dumb to give it to Gods Knights, but it's canon)

 

[L57]

fs at 15

 

[OPKnK]

This was a rather okay chapter but man breaks are hurting the pacing of this flashback .

Even on rereads, I don't think the placing of this flashback will work.

I think a lot of people will just skip it.

The Gorosei shown at the end is interesting, I guess. Could be Mars replaced them.

It going to be about 3 chapters people won't skip it on reread .
But these break are fucking things up a 3 chapter flashback taking near 2 month .

 

[Kumathegoat]

Leuven was an amazing human being

 

[Veku]

What Imu power did Gunko use against Jinbei though? She just used her DF power, and that's a YC1 tier feat/portrayal, Imu boosts can only just improve her standing at this point. If we assume Shamrock is a solid, up there top tier, Gunko who he was introduced withhim being in that ballpark seems reasonable, imo. She's not like Super Super Sommers and Killingham who mostly have taken L's.

Also, it's not like they're real people at the end of the day. We can't disqualify them for doping. That's just the powers they'll now have in the story.
(I do think Regen is a shitty power and Oda was dumb to give it to Gods Knights, but it's canon)

Are you for real?
HK boost grants a general power boost, no need to get into speficis, that was made clear by Oda and then the obvious regen, which allowed her to ignore any damage until Gaban was showing up.

I'm not disqualifying them for doping, just pointing out the obvious based on the info available, while you are keep coping and trying to turn them into characters which they ain't.

They ain't ambitious, not selfmade, at least nothing points torwards that so far and the more info we receive about them, the more they look like absolute spoiled bums, not even the average doping gym bro, but they are the equivalent of this guy:

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Ya my guess is correct Candelle is Holy knight , She disappeared and faked her death when WG ship were arriving.

Also in God valley there were 7 if i am correct with 4 goroseis there are 2 people with seal that didnt appear yet.

Candelle is definitely supreme commander now after Garling got promoted .

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Ya my guess is correct Candelle is Holy knight , She disappeared and faked her death when WG ship were arriving.

Also in God valley there were 7 if i am correct with 4 goroseis there are 2 people with seal that didnt appear yet.

Candelle is definitely supreme commander now after Garling got promoted .

Extreme reach imo.

 

[centurion]

Streets are saying cigar guy at the end is Akainu's father and previous admiral (Ji Aga) that Rocks killed

 

[Shiroyru]

Ya my guess is correct Candelle is Holy knight , She disappeared and faked her death when WG ship were arriving.

Also in God valley there were 7 if i am correct with 4 goroseis there are 2 people with seal that didnt appear yet.

Candelle is definitely supreme commander now after Garling got promoted .

Candelle is much older than Garling

 

[soupongo]

Are you for real?
HK boost grants a general power boost, no need to get into speficis, that was made clear by Oda and then the obvious regen, which allowed her to ignore any damage until Gaban was showing up.

I feel like.... that's a pretty big deal, for Imu to be able to boost the devil fruits of someone else though? I just assume the contract gives them a general strength boost, and maybe Haki? Idk, you could accuse me of autism here, but I'd want something specifically pointing out he can make a DF stronger. That feels major

I'm not disqualifying them for doping, just pointing out the obvious based on the info available, while you are keep coping and trying to turn them into characters which they ain't.

They ain't ambitious, not selfmade, at least nothing points torwards that so far and the more info we receive about them, the more they look like absolute spoiled bums, not even the average doping gym bro, but they are the equivalent of this guy:

Does anyone really consider the Gods Knights ambitious or self made lol? I certainly dont.

It doesn't change the fact that we know Gunko is like... decently strong. I unironically wouldn't be shocked if she's stronger than Ragnir ina 1v1 fight

 

[Logiko]

Amazing chapter ! (panty jokes and sexism aside)

So, as I said

Look at Gunko's story and Loki's story. It's a parrallel.

Both were accused of patricid and both seems to be acting in the interests of the ones they love. Gunko is still attached to Brook which tells me that Imu is responsible of BOTH situations.

As for this:

@Logiko @Johnny B. Decent So why exactly is DR Leuven dead here and not reverting back to his normal state?

Just wait. We don't have all the informations.

 

[soupongo]

Just wait. We don't have all the informations.

Why would we wait, things just objectively don't make sense?

 

[Logiko]

Why would we wait, things just objectively don't make sense?

In a shonen, if a power works differently in two different yet seemingly similar configurations, it is the basis of media literacy to wait for a full explanation of said power to judge instead of jumping unto the affirmation of incoherency.

Oda is making a CLEAR difference of effect. This means that he wants you to wonder what is happening. Not trying to make you say "it's not coherent".

So wait until the full power is explained or make theories. Why do I need to explain that after 1000+ chapters??

 

[Shiroyru]

In a shonen, if a power works differently in two different yet seemingly similar configurations, it is the basis of media literacy to wait for a full explanation of said power to judge instead of jumping unto the affirmation of incoherency.

Why didn’t Leuven and Gunko grow larger?

 

[Logiko]

Why didn’t Leuven and Gunko grow larger?

I don't know, It could be relative to the power or simply a way to picture the scene in a more dramatic way.

 

[soupongo]

In a shonen, if a power works differently in two different yet seemingly similar configurations, it is the basis of media literacy to wait for a full explanation of said power to judge instead of jumping unto the affirmation of incoherency.

Oda is making a CLEAR difference of effect. This means that he wants you to wonder what is happening. Not trying to make you say "it's not coherent".

So wait until the full power is explained or make theories. Why do I need to explain that after 1000+ chapters??

Stop defending a 50 year old man who doesn't want to explain basic things after 1185 chapters, hit the GYm bro

ANyway, we do clearly know how DR works, you don't die after it's undone, you heal perfectly to normal. That's what happened on screen with Dorry and Broggy, so that objectively needs to happen here.

 

[Logiko]

Stop defending a 50 year old man who doesn't want to explain basic things after 1185 chapters, hit the GYm bro

Perhaps you were sleeping during the previous 1100+ chapters mate, not explaining things to allow the fandom to create questions and theories is the basis of storytelling and Oda's technique.

 

[Shiroyru]

I’m just glad we can finally put the “DR buff > Deep Sea Pact buff” nonsense to rest @soupongo

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

@Logiko @Johnny B. Decent So why exactly is DR Leuven dead here and not reverting back to his normal state?

Do you think he already has died or is dying? I have to admit, I'm not 100% sure if he has or not.

 

[soupongo]

Perhaps you were sleeping during the previous 1100+ chapters mate, not explaining things to allow the fandom to create questions and theories is the basis of storytelling and Oda's technique.

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