Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1185 : Leave Them Be

[Shiroyru]

Do you think he already has died or is dying? I have to admit, I'm not 100% sure if he has or not.

The scene heavily implies he is

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

The scene heavily implies he is

I've been trying to double click on it to enlarge it, or right click to see it as an image, but I'm not having much luck.

Anyhoo, it also does seem odd why both of them were turned into devils, only to fight eachother. I guess we'll have to wait next week to see if his corpse returns to normal *and* get a bit more clarification on what occurred.

But it definitely seems deliberately vague.

 

[D. Plant]

They Domi Reversi Shuri that took a portion of her lifespan. So will she just die after Brook break her from Imu's contract or has one year left to be together with Brook?

 

[Logiko]

I've been trying to double click on it to enlarge it, or right click to see it as an image, but I'm not having much luck.

Anyhoo, it also does seem odd why both of them were turned into devils, only to fight eachother. I guess we'll have to wait next week to see if his corpse returns to normal *and* get a bit more clarification on what occurred.

But it definitely seems deliberately vague.

Exactly. Oda could not be much more on the nose than here. It's literally the Brogy Dory situation but this time only one got chop

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

@Shiroyru Now, my guess? I would surmise Shuri overpowered and killed him so throughly that he died instantly. More like what happened with Xebec's family then the giants, which we should note, both instances were were they were transformed via a proxy of Imu and not the Pentagram thing he did with the Giants. So that could mean there are two distinct ways and the first one is inferior.

I guess we'll see if his corpse returns to normal next chapter if that hunch is true or not.

 

[Logiko]

@Shiroyru Now, my guess? I would surmise Shuri overpowered and killed him so throughly that he died instantly.

I guess we'll see if his corpse returns to normal next chapter if that hunch is true or not.

It's also important to note that Oda could've have just put a dead NORMAL prince on the floor. But he went all the way to draw the wings while being seemingly dead.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

It's also important to note that Oda could've have just put a dead NORMAL prince on the floor. But he went all the way to draw the wings while being seemingly dead.

Now, all things said, it would have made things A LOT clearer if the technique where he had them sucked into a portal and spat out as a devil just be Domi Reversi and the thing where he transforms people with tendrils be called something else.

So, that one is admittedly on Oda.

 

[D. Plant]

Reuven might not be Shuri's biological father, what Brook says here are very sus. She looks nothing like Reuven especially her eyes don't match. They took her to Holyland because she is a celestial dragon.

Or maybe Oda is just trying to shorten the flashback with speech bubble.

 

[Logiko]

Also wondering if the song is right in the translation. Seems to me like a good opportunity to write a "leave me alone" song. Instead of "get off my back" (in french) and "leave them be" here (on what is seemingly an horrible translation).

Now, all things said, it would have made things A LOT clearer if the technique where he had them sucked into a portal and spat out as a devil just be Domi Reversi and the thing where he transforms people with tendrils be called something else.

So, that one is admittedly on Oda.

We will see. There might be an explanation for all of this.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

It would also seem the devils that Imu creates with the Pentagram are also of superior quality then having one of the Gorosei stab people with the dark tendrils and transform them that way.

 

[Logiko]

I'm quite surprised at the quality and speed of Mangamoins (a french scanlation site). It reminds me of the good ol time when Scantrad was still the major player with qualitative work.

https://mangamoins.com/scan/OP1185

 

[ShinichiMugi]

Poor Brook.
The story of this flashback is good,but the negative thing is the many breaks happening during this flashback

 

[yoyoyotony]

Also wondering if the song is right in the translation. Seems to me like a good opportunity to write a "leave me alone" song. Instead of "get off my back" (in french) and "leave them be" here (on what is seemingly an horrible translation).



We will see. There might be an explanation for all of this.

Let it be ? Let me be ?

 

[Logiko]

Let it be ? Let me be ?

"Leave me" alone would be a reference to his own story of loneliness and the fact that these three people literally "left him alone"

 

[Kumathegoat]

a really intriguing chapter.

great contrast to Harald's death

Leuven was a true king

 

[Mathias]

Brook > Mihawk

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Admiral fans making fun of Teenage HKs not being strong is some clown shit. An older Kuzan was literally begging Garp to teach him Haki

and does anyone reallly think young Kizaru or Fujitora would be some naturak born monster?

Only way you end up that strong as a teenager is:

1. Winning the genetic lottery (Loki, Kaido, Linlin)
2. Being forced to trained at a young age (Garp throwing Luffy in the jungle, Oden)
3. Having a ridiculous Will to challenge the current system (Koby, Roger, Garp, Dragon).

Honestly, now that I think about it, Garp's ridiculous treatment of Luffy probably entirely stems from him thinking he wasn't hard enough on Dragon.

If you don't have one of those three factors, you're not making it into the top tiers until you're in your 30s, at the least. This is consistent with most characters.

Even Newgate wasn't a true Top Tier on God Valley, yet, and he was, what, in his mid 30s?

People looking for powerscaling in a chapter where there is absolutely nothing to powerscale is FUCKING HILARIOUS, it's like trying to make Baked Alaska out of a rabbit and a shoestring.

 

[zzShinichi]

This is a sweet short FB in a wrong place at the wrong time

 

[Kejon]

Better than the spoilers for sure.

 

[RiShin]

Just like that.. does anyone care about Gunko mother dying because I certainly didn't? Nor do I care about the attachment to Brook.
This flashback was really unneeded.