General & Others Danzo no Izanagi vs 4th Raikage

Who negs?

  • Danzo

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Raikage

    Votes: 11 84.6%

  • Total voters
    13
#62
Literally in the next panel.
Yeah he got overpowered, not blitzed, learn the difference

Idek why we're keeping this discussion when even other Danzo fans are straight up telling you he's getting killed by Ay without Izanagi or Koto.
Yeah but your reasoning is because Sasuke is faster than Danzo, even much faster even though that is really only true in susanoo and even then Danzo was still able to react and occasionally trade with susanoo
 
#64
It is barely, you can see it on the panel.
It's evident considering Danzo never dodged these arrows again because he was simply too slow.
It's not my fault you're getting triggered over it. Complain to Kishimoto.
No you're just stubborn and think Danzo is slow even though his performance against base Sasuke and susanoo prove otherwise
 
#65
Bruh I asked the difference between normal 3T and MS 3T Sharingan since you came up with "They were not MS 3T" lmao.
My point is Danzo without a MS was keeping up MS Sasuke, same Sasuke who was reacting to A, therefore Danzo could especially if he had his MS

Like he still slower than A but with a MS it's not out of question that A could get genjutsu or curse sealed
 
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#66
Yeah he got overpowered, not blitzed, learn the difference
That's my statement:

First panel literally ended up with Sasuke cutting Danzo's arm and slicing his torso. He won the encounter.
No mention of a speedblitz.

Well, not that it matters. Susanoo wasn't only tagging Danzo with the arrows, Sasuke punched Danzo several times with Susanoo.
I believe Danzo was only briefly keeping up with base Sasuke but whenever Susanoo was involved, he had no chance. Iirc he lost lots of his lives because of Susanoo.
Amaterasu was even an instant death skill to Danzo. There was nothing he could directly do if it wasn't for Izanagi btw.

Yeah but your reasoning is because Sasuke is faster than Danzo, even much faster even though that is really only true in susanoo and even then Danzo was still able to react and occasionally trade with susanoo
My reasoning is that Danzo got speedblitzed by techniques slower than Ay, several times. That's no rocket science. See it for yourself:



The last ones weren't even from the arrows (they were too fast anyway), it was Susanoo punching the guts outta Danzo:



So you can see... Danzo mainly relied on distractions (summoning beast) and Izanagi because he was no match for Sasuke's Susanoo anyway.

Even KCM1 Naruto needed so many attempts to keep up with Ay until he actually managed to outspeed V2 Ay.

My point is Danzo without a MS was keeping up MS Sasuke, same Sasuke who was reacting to A, therefore Danzo could especially if he had his MS

Like he still slower than A but with a MS it's not out of question that A could get genjutsu or curse sealed
What does that make Ay who doesn't even have a Sharingan to begin with lol?
I also missed the point when MS foresight > ordinary 3T Sharingan foresight. Heck, Sasuke spammed Amaterasu and Susanoo like a maniac, even Obito pointed out his recklessness.

Tbh, the arrows were even ridiculously fast for Kakashi, admitting he'd be done for if it wasn't for Kamui:



It doesn't make Danzo nor Kakashi like snails, it makes Ay's speed even more ridiculous cuz he outspeed Amaterasu which is even faster than those arrows. That's my point of this discussion. You excluded very important abilities for Danzo which would be necessary for his survival (and victory) against an opponent who can easily blitz him as many times as he wants.
 
#68
I also missed the point when MS foresight > ordinary 3T Sharingan foresight. Heck, Sasuke spammed Amaterasu and Susanoo like a maniac, even Obito pointed out his recklessness
It does but you realize Danzo matching base Sasuke who has a sharingan while Danzo had only regular eyes (and only one of them at that) makes Sasuke look bad?
 
#70
Normal eye Danzo was reacting to Susanoo arrows

MS Danzo is reacting to Ay and putting him under genjutsu
Bro, Danzo was barely reacting to the first one, even needed a emergency Mokuton jutsu against it.
Furthermore, Danzo himself admitted it wouldn't be easy to dodge these:



Once again, reacting != capable to dodge an attack in time when there is a huge difference to it. Ay is just a bad match-up. If it was Kabutomaru, he wouldn't struggle with Ay at all due to Sennin Mode precognition which is quite more powerful than 3T precognition. He was even capable to dodge these arrows without issues.
Btw, Danzo doesn't have MS either, so moot point I guess?

Tbh, you took Danzo's biggest weapon in this fight. I think you could edit your start post with a bonus round where Danzo has at least 3 Sharingan eyes to use Izanagi (iirc each eye had a capacity of 60 seconds where Danzo can avoid death due to Izanagi). He isn't beating one of the strongest kages without going 100%.
 
#72
Bro, Danzo was barely reacting to the first one, even needed a emergency Mokuton jutsu against it.
Furthermore, Danzo himself admitted it wouldn't be easy to dodge these:



Once again, reacting != capable to dodge an attack in time when there is a huge difference to it. Ay is just a bad match-up. If it was Kabutomaru, he wouldn't struggle with Ay at all due to Sennin Mode precognition which is quite more powerful than 3T precognition. He was even capable to dodge these arrows without issues.
Btw, Danzo doesn't have MS either, so moot point I guess?

Tbh, you took Danzo's biggest weapon in this fight. I think you could edit your start post with a bonus round where Danzo has at least 3 Sharingan eyes to use Izanagi (iirc each eye had a capacity of 60 seconds where Danzo can avoid death due to Izanagi). He isn't beating one of the strongest kages without going 100%.
I see he said difficult to dodge, not impossible
:shocking:

Yeah Ay is not blitzing this dude. Lol
 
#73
Amaterasu was even an instant death skill to Danzo. There was nothing he could directly do if it wasn't for Izanagi btw
Lmao is fodderasu instant death for anyone
:Kek_Ki:
he could have used woodstyle to push it off or any of his other chakra natures of which he has several

Honestly we see Danzo utelize seals he could very likely seal it away
 
#75
I see he said difficult to dodge, not impossible
:shocking:

Yeah Ay is not blitzing this dude. Lol
He wouldn't waste one of his Sharingan eyes to handle those arrows if he can dodge it.

Ngl, the copium is strong with this one. We have two instances where Danzo was straight up unable to dodge even when he was prepared.
Ay is blitzing this mf, Idk why you're going to such high length to deny it.

Lmao is fodderasu instant death for anyone
These flames burn for several days at least?
You cannot extinguish these either?

There was a reason why Ay decided to cut off his entire arm instead.

Rasenshurikan mogs amaterasu so hard, it's not even funny
Stay on topic please.
Also, yes, Rasenshuriken kills Danzo as well. I mean just like it'd kill 99% of the characters if you're not 3rd Raikage.
 
#79
Crazy how Sasuke with susanoo and sharingan is still barely faster than Danzo. He was reacting to Susanoo most if not everytime, no wonder he had to whip out amaterasu

 
#80
Not a tantrum just facts
You're denying almost everything in this discussion bro. Like this post:
Crazy how Sasuke with susanoo and sharingan is still barely faster than Danzo. He was reacting to Susanoo most if not everytime, no wonder he had to whip out amaterasu

You nitpicked two instances when Sasuke often tagged Danzo in everything else lol.
Once again, Ay is massively faster than the arrows Sasuke threw at Danzo, let alone Susanoo itself...
 
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