Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1186 Spoilers Discussion

[D. Plant]

Why is nobody looking at thr fact, Celestial dragon visited Esperia before Gunko birth.
This is just ruven getting cucked. No wait they weren't even married at that time.
- Manmayer did what Some CD did to Ginny.
Most likely contracted some disease like her which can explain her fatigue and other stuff.
Candelle survivrd for 15 years before expiring at the same time as CD next visit.

Then it's the same thing what Vinsmoke Judge did. They gave her some kind of drugs to make her weak and infertile after giving birth to Shuri.

 

[MegaSpider]

Oda didn't even explain anything about Gunko this flashback.
Why did Imu want her and keep her as his personal attendant for 70 years?
If it's just the 2 color eyes he could've kept her dad as his attendant instead.

 

[Cruxroux]

Then it's the same thing what Vinsmoke Judge did. They gave her some kind of drugs to make her weak and infertile after giving birth to Shuri.

Wouldn't exactly say infertile but Ruven just became Kuma figure for Candelle and Shuri

 

[Okamakama]

Then it's the same thing what Vinsmoke Judge did. They gave her some kind of drugs to make her weak and infertile after giving birth to Shuri.

Oda just can't let a good man have a bloodline. That's only for CDs.

Oda didn't even explain anything about Gunko this flashback.
Why did Imu want her and keep her as his personal attendant for 70 years?
If it's just the 2 color eyes he could've kept her dad as his attendant instead.

Blue hair.

 

[Cruxroux]

Oda didn't even explain anything about Gunko this flashback.
Why did Imu want her and keep her as his personal attendant for 70 years?
If it's just the 2 color eyes he could've kept her dad as his attendant instead.

Heterochromatic eyes is likely the character trait of Manmayer family. Which makes it easier for Imu to take control ig.
Cavendish gets heterochromia too while being possesed. Shuri and manmayers maybe like cursed or something.

 

[Killerj]

Zolo is the kid of a celestial dragon also

 

[Okamakama]

Wouldn't exactly say infertile but Ruven just became Kuma figure for Candelle and Shuri

I don't know how he could stomach taking her as a Queen and elevating her rapist's child as Princess. Seems a retarded and suicidal thing to do as a sovereign.

 

[Cruxroux]

Zolo is the kid of a celestial dragon also

Her mother could be one at this point.
It would be funny if she is from Ethanbaron Family lol.

 

[MegaSpider]

Oda just can't let a good man have a bloodline. That's only for CDs.



Blue hair.

Why not take Vivi earlier then? She showed up at the reverie like 10 years ago. Could've sent HK to Alabasta any time since then.

 

[Killerj]

The CD awakened coc in Candele

 

[Cruxroux]

I don't know how he could stomach taking her as a Queen and elevating her rapist's child as Princess. Seems a retarded and suicidal thing to do as a sovereign.

Because Ruven and Candelle probably had something going on already like Kuma and Ginny.
It's simply out of love.

 

[Dragon777]

Because base Luffy is a lot stronger than you give him credit for and because your only real example is Kaido, who actually got stronger over the course of the fight by using various forms.

If the same applies to Imu, and the Imu that Luffy in base form gives the Charlos treatment to is just holding back, then logically it means Loki has been fighting a hugely holding back Imu this entire time. You can't have your cake and eat it.

Kaido proceed to mop the floor with (Gear) Luffy well before he started getting serious, so no.
Also, It isn't the sole example at all. With Doflamingo was the same, with Katakuri (during the FS learning) was the same, and so on.

Luffy often overperforms in base and then gets trashed or anyway needs far stronger forms to fight enemies he seemed to match in base the chapter before.

And anyway no.
The fact that Imu was seious against Loki what has to do with Luffy being trashed as soon as Imu is as serious as he was against Loki?
If not this is a Base Luffy (who blizted Hybrid Kaido) >>> BM (who matched base Kaido) type of take.

 

[Cruxroux]

Why not take Vivi earlier then? She showed up at the reverie like 10 years ago. Could've sent HK to Alabasta any time since then.

Because she was 8yo, 10 years ago?

 

[Okamakama]

Because Ruven and Candelle probably had something going on already like Kuma and Ginny.
It's simply out of love.

Yeah, well, I love my wife, but I wouldn't raise her rape child if that was ever on the menu.
Reuven was a terrible King if he let his bloodline die so easily.

 

[Yoho]

So this flashback was to establish Gunkos mom was for the streets?

 

[MegaSpider]

Well..at least we know Brooke's final fight.
Gunko's dad, 1 of the HK.

 

[Okamakama]

Well..at least we know Brooke's final fight.
Gunko's dad, 1 of the HK.

Gunko's dad is probably dead by now lol.

 

[Killerj]

The CD is Sanji's Va and Rouven is Oda, Candele is Oda's "wife"

 

[Cruxroux]

Yeah, well, I love my wife, but I wouldn't raise her rape child if that was ever on the menu.
Reuven was a terrible King if he let his bloodline die so easily.

Ummm idk man.
If the kid came out of a consensual relationship, I'm not raising it either. But the candelle is victim herself over here.

 

[D. Plant]

Oda just can't let a good man have a bloodline. That's only for CDs.



Blue hair.

Probably Oda is telling his real life experience, one of his daughter isn't his.