Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1186 Spoilers Discussion

We are sorry for doubting you, BB is the final villain


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What is odiddy's obsession about making good characters into cucks and then making them raise other people's kids...
Oda just showing what we already know since SB what CD is do .
But seem the HK don't like to interbreed .
Also raising some else kid don't make you cuck .
Fuck that world has lost it's meaning online .

Oda got one move and hasn’t let go since .
"trauma" always going to be big aspect of the manga with how fuck up this world is .
Hell most of people of our world got some sort trauma and getting worst if you look stats .
With everything trying fuck us over .
 
Will need to see, but i'm not convinced Growlo is Gunko's father, he might have cast an illusion so from Gunko's
perspective he has eyes like her.. The guy just stood there and didn't do nothing?.. I think the mist has been him..
 
Most of the pre time skip good dads, tom, zeff, Hiruluk, clover, we’re raising other people kids

now Oda wants to “post time upscale” his pre time skip patterns by making the good dads cucks too


Why would new abilities be a sign of anything? He’s been using new abilities on Loki too

you have prove the abilities are stronger that the previous ones he used on loki

also you guys forget that Imu was slapped by base Loki as well.

And don’t forget that Imu blocked Sanji and Zoro. He didn’t tank Sanji or Zoro’s attacks. He blocked them. Imu has never been shown to be that hard of a tank if he needs to actively block weaklings like Zoe and Sanji
Doesn't matter. His been smile diffing Loki this entire time. If he now pulls out even newer abilities, then that confirms he was holding back against Loki this entire time, and therefore the abilities he used against Loki were all his "holding back" abilities this entire time.
He didn't use those new abilities (the ones we'll see him use against Luffy) until Luffy came into the fight.

Nope. All it takes a change of demeanor (the smiles his been giving Loki this entire time) and that'll be more then enough to confirm it.

The only way to prove otherwise is if he uses the same abilities against Luffy that he already did, which won't happen, or if he explicitly says so, which, again, won't happen because Nika's been rent free in his head this entire time.
*Imu allowed base Loki to slap him around because he was handling him with kiddy gloves

His reaction to Nidhogg vs Joy Boy btw.

If that happens when he sees Luffy, then that just means he was holding back against Loki all this time and base Luffy punch > everything Loki did up until that point.
 
I mean haki will always matter just know that DF will matter more .
We have Ragnir that look strong than 99% of the world because of a DF lol.
Oh I know. DFs are super important, hell Luffy's G5 is a DF power.

My main point is that for some reason this chapter has brought back the narrative that Luffy "held back" or "did not use haki" in EH.

Which I really don't agree with.
 
Oh I know. DFs are super important, hell Luffy's G5 is a DF power.

My main point is that for some reason this chapter has brought back the narrative that Luffy "held back" or "did not use haki" in EH.

Which I really don't agree with.
Luffy not using Haki or ACoC on EH never made sense.
Oda already explain that even if it lazy.
Luffy has or had to learn to use haki better which is something that comes will all forms of haki .
I don't like haki that much but that was something that build in since the start.
 
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