Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1187 Spoilers Discussion

[sanjikun]

No way this is what you think is happening. Luffy isn’t beating Imu here

Doesn't matter. Even if it's sending him back or something.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Simping for Shakky was a point I never made.

For Gaban, I have said this before as well.
He only uses Axe and Haki, so weapon or Haki was the only vertical investment he could make.
Sanji usrs fkames (Pre time skip) and exoskeleton now. His power system differs entirely from Gaban.

You're making up rules that Oda never established

Oda never went and said "Sanji will solely be limited to science and flame based powers"

 

[Hedfi]

you still haven't answered why lol

there's no criteria for who does or doesn't get it.

fucking Yamato and Katakuri weren't ambitious and they had it lmao

what makes a Conqueror?

Fate is the logical common denominator to being a CoC user.

Those who have CoC have the power the change the world, and those born with the ability to change of the world have CoC.

 

[Cruxroux]

You keep moving the goalpost. You denied the connection of IJ and Haki and I debunked your claim. Now you're being butthurt about it and come up with some other nonsense, lol.

You didn't debunk shit lmao.
Bro is living in his own delusions.

I said since the start, all the conqueror users are utilizing their powers alongside their other means of power.

Sanji flames and exoskeleton comes in totally different tier than DF and Haki.

Did queen use haki with his enchancement? Did germa? No lol. That's a completely differenr power system.

 

[Boiroy]

Since I don’t care about agenda anymore
Sanji has been the best character of op for now
When you look at how depth his character has been, his backstory n origin of his power unlike Luffy
ODA can’t draw sword’s fight, it could’ve been better if he was even half as talented as his pedo friend who drew kenshin in this matter
Zoro had potential for so much more, he has been more like a perfect character who comes to beat the second strongest n get sideline

Sanji is the most versatile fighter, we have seen his drawbacks, his limitations yet how much he surpassed each time
Every power of his has a origin a backstory
Each haki
His exo
His sky walk
His superhuman strength

 

[Sir Yasheen]

you still haven't answered why lol

there's no criteria for who does or doesn't get it.

fucking Yamato and Katakuri weren't ambitious and they had it lmao

what makes a Conqueror?

Shanks wanted to just have fun with Buggy
Whitebeard just wanted a family
Sengoku was a corporate slave
Katakuri hid in BMs shadow

But Sanjis ambition is the problem

 

[rohithkun]

Spoiler

He just added Armanent to the exoskeleton lol.
Where is this training of armanent? Where is the flow? Lol.

In Japanese, he doesn't say "developed', he says "Armament Haki I have trained till now".

 

[Salah WG]

No, that is not what the spoilers imply

Need to see the exact wording of Gaban then,
I prefer if Sanji have Maki or a New Power instead, having CoC means Sanji was unnecessarily buffed by his Scientific Enhancements,
It would also remove his Potential of becoming Greatest Human Weapon ever, relying on CoC simply disqualifies Sanji from being Top Representative of Science.

 

[Sentinel]

You didn't debunk shit lmao.
Bro is living in his own delusions.

Pot calling the kettle black ahh comment lmao.

I said since the start, all the conqueror users are utilizing their powers alongside their other means of power.

What's the difference between G4 and IJ, tell me Crux?

Did queen use haki with his enchancement? Did germa? No lol. That's a completely differenr power system.

But Sanji did??? Does it not prove he's different to them lol? What are you even saying atp man???

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

So luffy and Zoro ambition are nothing lmao?
Zoro wants to beat WSS, luffy wants to take down yonkou and admirals.
Funny how when wants to do it that's not an ambition lmao.

They are actively chasing their dreams that's not the same as Katakuri who could leave if he actually had balls.

Lmao plot armour. They are as good as dead. It was conditions, plot armours and bomb out if randomness in a 2v1 she was beaten. She was beaten not surpassed lol.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW THE FIGHT WENT DOWN CRUX

 

[Fn Lucci]

I did say Sanji will have conqueror haki. The chapter where it was confirmed Gaban has Conqueror and some were going crazy over it I wasnt surprised and reafirmed that sanji will have it. This should be nothing shocking. But most of the time I dont participate in these discussion because it was simply too obvious that sanji will have it. But I genuinely didnt expect it in Elbaf when sanji was matched against killigham the change rose to 50% since without it you cabt truly defeat a Holy Knight.

If you didn't call it until after Egghead then it has officially not "been obvious since WCI" for you

 

[Cruxroux]

Alright.
So, if sanji went down the "path of science", what would his next PU be?

Relating to Power of love. Passion basically which was his explanation for Flames back then.
Out of randomness he creates flames wirh no haki and DF. Where do you think that come from?
Stronger the passion stronger the flames.
Same shit happened in wano, he emotions took a turn when he decided not be like his brother entire melodrama which went on with sanji, Exoskeleton and speed enabled mafisfestation of hotter flames.

 

[pg13]

If Zoro doesn’t get a powerup this arc I think it’s fair to say Sanji is stronger than Him ngl.

 

[Killerj]

All zolo girls are down on their knees, they bow to the one true CoCKing Wanji

 

[DonWick]

I’m sensing a bit of salt from this statement

Not at all. @soheilhazrat mentioned Sanji or being or reaching top 10 to me earlier. I didn’t reply directly because I was being lazy. So I made this. If it was salty I would have added Zoro lol

 

[Cruxroux]

You're making up rules that Oda never established

Oda never went and said "Sanji will solely be limited to science and flame based powers"

Gives him flames pre time skip.
Gives him exoskeelton and raid suit in post time skip.

Not even once has ever gotten Haki upgrade or even spoken about his haki.
Sure I'm making the rules now lol.

 

[Cruxroux]

In Japanese, he doesn't say "developed', he says "Armament Haki I have trained till now".

That's the official translation my blud. Idk what japanese says. Even with that we have no evidence him training on CoA.

 

[Zoinks52]

Plenty of people dying on top of hills this week.

Kinda irrelevant but your comment is lowkey hilarious because Oda made Sanji's parallel the "Mountain Eater"...so it's kinda appropriate that hills are involved now.

 

[Doggo]

sanji, Exoskeleton and speed enabled mafisfestation of hotter flames.

AND HAKI.
stop removing Haki from the equation.

 

[Raiden7]

It's just a cook , bro