Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1187 Spoilers Discussion

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I honestly dread what "gift" Oda has in store for Zoro, considering Sanji's gift was so good. It’s unlikely that only Sanji would get a power-up, but I can't picture what kind of powerup Zoro might receive, so something bizarre could happen in a few chapters. Probably another victory for Sanji fans.
Strong conqueror this is what he is hinted to got in this arc . Zoro might be able to conqueror flex like rayleigh after wano .
 
Martial Artist, can use swords, knives, cutting only the parts of the opponent he wants to cut; self-taught himself Rokushiki and Basic Haki, can snipe opponents grabbing other people's guns, already has access to superspeed permanently, only limited by stamina, can generate infinite heat, durability defies physics, can tank internal damage, about to get Acoc + elbaf range COO and Future Sight like gaban



Despite refusing to train and stink every day


And we didnt even enter the final arc yet :shocked: @Doggo @Raiden7 @ZenZu @Sentinel
 
Sanji's output wouldn't increase with hotter flames???
He's simply perma using his Haki, that's why he's only able to maintain this form for 30 minutes before it's all out. It's a fact Sanji has to maintain the Haki + exo combination to maintain the flames. It's basically the same concept.
It's not, sanji passes out extensive use of Exoskeleton. Not haki. What series do you all even read?


Because it wasn't necessary atp to get ACoC? Sanji had to accept his identity as a modified human and that's why he got exo + IJ. It was meant to surpass the combined technology of his father who's responsible for Sanji's suffering. He fought against an opponent who was capable to use all techniques of the Germa as a single cyborg.
Now in this arc, Sanji will unlock his true potential to fight against immortal demonic enemies who can only be damaged by ACoC. Again, where's the issue?
Fine let's conqueror allows hotter flames.
Same armanent
Same exoskeleton

What changed? The heat of the flames... it shoukd backfire now, conqueror doesn't give defense armanent do.
 
If scientific enchancement can be covered in haki why not make ichiji laser eyes hakified lol.
Sanji flames getting stronger had nothing to do with haki, but exoskeleton and Speed.
Oh I see this is where oyu are struggling ok I i will explain you.
Sanji flames strenght have no limits . He can generate all the heats he want . The limit is his own body .
Sanji can't whistand the heat off his own flames if they get too hot . By upgrating his haki he get toughter and able to endure more heat so he can upgrate the strenght of his flames . The strongest his haki is the strongest his flames are the exoskeleton made him even more flames resiliant then he was already this + his trained armement haki made him able to get the blue flames . Its all about being able to endure his own flames .
 
If Zoro has to surpass Mihawk I can see an argument. Some of those characters will die. But all time, neither Zoro or Sanji will.
ODA killing any main character is like trump getting Nobel peace sward
Ashura isn't CoC. That's something completely different.
Ashura was used with CoC. Ashura is not the CoC. Different things.
at the end it’ll be different form of coc
ODA don’t like to complex things
 
Oh I see this is where oyu are struggling ok I i will explain you.
Sanji flames strenght have no limits . He can generate all the heats he want . The limit is his own body .
Sanji can't whistand the heat off his own flames if they get too hot . By upgrating his haki he get toughter and able to endure more heat so he can upgrate the strenght of his flames . The strongest his haki is the strongest his flames are the exoskeleton mad ehim evne mroe flame resistent then he was already this + his trained armement haki made him able to get the blue flames . Its all about being able to endure his own flames .
Cool now conqueroe makes his haki even more hotter but same exoskeleton and armanent.
How does sanji wield that kind of fire?

Conqueror gives no defense. Luffy, Zoro and kajdou were using CoA only in thr end.
 
Not neccesarily.
I have said this before.
Gaban uses Axe and Haki, so the only vertical investment of conqueror made sense.
Sanji uses body modification and Flames. Completely different power system. And he can surpass him with that too.
Looks like you was wrong. Sanji needed CoC he wouldn't be strong enough to take on Gorosei later in the story. He was lagging behind Zoro who body is already use to CoC.
 
It's not, sanji passes out extensive use of Exoskeleton. Not haki. What series do you all even read?
Was this ever stated that he passed out bcoz of his exoskeleton???

What changed? The heat of the flames... it shoukd backfire now, conqueror doesn't give defense armanent do.
This is what I stated before: "Plus, technically, Sanji could even imbue his exoskeleton with CoC, creating even far hotter flames than IJ. His exoskeleton is a very useful PU, it proves he isn't overly reliant on Haki, he's pretty much an allrounder who has DF-like powers but can swim. An ACoC Sanji seems to be pretty strong tbh."

Furthermore, CoC doesn't give defense? Luffy was capable to take Berserk Kaido's Ragnarok way better than before when he was knocked out.
 
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