Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1187 Spoilers Discussion

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Tbh, I'll die on the hill that the Germa stuff feels pretty pointless now. Sanji even has COC, which is just genetic, but none of his biological family has it. But just generally, beyond Judge being in MADS with Queen, it doesn't really feel very connected to the other stuff in verse.
And how do you explain Sanji nevee getting a Haki upgrade in the entirety of Post time skip.
Suddenly unlocks AdCoC?
Luffy zoro atkeast started using it unconsciously at brink of death.
This is dude straight up begging for it and using it next. How are people even defending this?
 
Maybe ACoC isn't something hard to use, you know?

The HARD thing is discovering the idea of using it, like using it as coating.

Luffy didn't need any major training to to use it and match Kaido's even.
And now Sanji will not only awake it, but also use it in its advanced form to kill the fucking stupid horse.
:Rofl::Rofl::Rofl::Rofl:

Doffy and Katakuri were really fucking stupid then. Katakuri then, holy, +40 Years old, living with a super powerful ACoC user and still a lvl 0 CoC user, talent issue ig.
:myman::myman::myman:

Really dude, I love Oda powerups, so much hilarious shit.
Just accept Sanji is a bigger genius than Zoro bro

It was not that hard to clapping with your hands when Pinzoro jr unlocked acoc faster than luffy from base coc with his magic sword to catapult him to battle genius status without questioning anything :myman:
 
Crux, I don't deny that Zoro>Sanji. The problem is that Zoro fans generally want Zoro to be grouped with Luffy instead, which is clearly not Oda's intention anymore(you can argue about pre TS). You're literally reading an arc where you have an entire country worshipping a prophecy Luffy is related too, where the King of the world is taking him seriously as a threat and fighting him to an extent that even Rocks didn't. Look at something like even the mural, which is all about hyping up how important Luffy will be in the rest of the saga, while Zoro and Sanji obviously have no real role in anything like that.

Just look at Jinbei for why grouping is important. When Oda grouped Jinbei with the likes of Croco, Doffy, Ace, Hancock etc, he was one of the more respected characters. Now that Jinbei is basically grouped with the mid trio, he's a neg diff for Gunko, and completely irrelevant.
They're pretending he's the Sasuke in OP when his purpose and role was never equal to Luffy's. Zoro even put his own dream and goal second to Luffy's. That's not someone who's meant to be the deuteragonist equal to the protagonist. I'd claim Zoro's a better Genos to Saitama (ofc the difference between Luffy and Zoro isn't that huge), especially in post-ts. I know Zoro doesn't view Luffy as his teacher/master, whatever but what matters is the role between those two.
 
Debunked what, i quoted you because keep lying, and @GrandmasterChef Zonji confirmed what i said, they agreed the set up for sanjis coc is good written and even better setup than zoros
If you geniuenly this unable to read that you did not get that please quit english speaking discussion

Come go ahead, ask again if they didnt mean that
'It doesn't make sense'
'But it's good writing'
:ihaha::ihaha:
Holyfuckkkk
 
And how do you explain Sanji nevee getting a Haki upgrade in the entirety of Post time skip.
Suddenly unlocks AdCoC?
Luffy zoro atkeast started using it unconsciously at brink of death.
This is dude straight up begging for it and using it next. How are people even defending this?
Lol Zoro wasn't even able to use basic CoC and all of a sudden he learned to coat his blades with CoC just because he realised some way to tame Enma. Do you think this is better? Either both PUs are complete BS or you're just nitpicking.
 
They're pretending he's the Sasuke in OP when his purpose and role was never equal to Luffy's. Zoro even put his own dream and goal second to Luffy's. That's not someone who's meant to be the deuteragonist equal to the protagonist. I'd claim Zoro's a better Genos to Saitama (ofc the difference between Luffy and Zoro isn't that huge), especially in post-ts. I know Zoro doesn't view Luffy as his teacher/master, whatever but what matters is the role between those two.
You forgot about ryumor, like imu, im afraid
 
I think people need to remember that Gaban sensed the straw hats coming to Elbaf while the straw hats were literally days away from them. And he was the only one who could sense the HKs even while they were masking their presence. Dudes CoO is insanely strong
Yup i knew that, because i genuinely believe it since his parallel which is Sanji had a natural Talent of CoO. Sanji able to hear someone crying from far away is a hint of his great CoO, even Luffy didn't feel it, and i'm sorry jinbe fan we ain't talking about him. Future Sight or anything above is guaranteed.

What i kinda not agreeing or thinking it doesn't make sense at all is how Gyaban able to detect CoC Haki without confronting them, or atleast Sanji. If Sanji had CoC haki Oozing outta him even tho its much smaller than Zoro, we can accept it. But in this one, Gyaban just straight up said He had the Quality of Kings, and able to master CoC, without feeling it or maybe the spoilers didn't explained it even further( classic Spoilers provider behaviour lol ).

But to counter that, we had a case of Blackbeard at Jaya island who didn't believe at Luffy's Bounty cuz he know he is strong based on his haki, he again recalled it again on Impel Down.
So to me we just didn't had an good argument on it except that, and thats okay tbh.
Ain't gonna debate it much further cuz its gonna get explanation soon lol.
 
i feel bad for lanjitards tho

Imagine if this had happened during the forum heyday, or even in egghead.

Instead they get this when op story is in the shitter and forum is a graveyard and most zorotards have dropped the manga
We already won the agenda war at the start of Elbaf with Gaban's introduction last year.
From now to the last chapter of this manga is just a vacation, like a soccer match with the score of 3:0 around the 80° minute.
:Egg_cited:
 
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