Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1187 Spoilers Discussion

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

People still acting like Sanji and Law aren't comparable? Post Elbaf Sanji will definitely surpass Egghead Law

 

[Albino 👑]

I genuinely don’t understand how Sanji of all characters getting conquerors is something controversial even from a Zoro stan perspective

The only thing that can be funnier than Oda rubbing the wing duo in our faces would be fully confirming Mihawk is just warlord level

 

[kekaro]

I legit don't know where are you trying to going with this yapping.

I always had Sanji unlocking CoC against the Gorosei or BBP commander, not against the Holy Knights, that's why i said it unlikely, but never doubted Sanji is a conqueror.

Stop talking nonsense and understand for once that the point here is not which arc Sanji would unlock CoC, it's that there were people saying Sanji would never get CoC, not a conqueror and no ambition. People who deliberately made fun of Sanji not having CoC while Luffy and Zoro had. Jesus christ, it's not like haven't discussed "Sanji Conqueror haki" every single month.

You're so butt hurt about the mockering, that you legit searched for old posts of mine for try to use it against me lol, search a single post of mine saying Sanji has no ambition or Sanji will never get CoC.

He is a little bit of hurt
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/explaining-sanjis-coc.19016/page-10#post-2116446
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...get-conquerors-haki.13215/page-7#post-1335768
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...on-sanjis-character.75577/page-8#post-6471364
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-kick-kizaru’s-beam.76049/page-5#post-6483449
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/when-will-sanji-unlock-coc.19897/page-2#post-2218485
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...e-us-so-many-hints.15004/page-16#post-1527496

That last post is a gem tbh crux level of analysis

 

[kekaro]

Bro was in the trenches about sanji not getting coc even most posts in the thread 😭 😭 😭

 

[rohithkun]

Again wrong lmao.
Zoro said if I can't even defend my Captain, what good is even my ambition lmao.

Spoiler

Y'all just love making things up and blame it on us lmao.

Why are you being disingenuous here? Zoro clearly puts life of his captain over his ambition. The chapter title is "Strawhat pirate - Pirate Hunter Zoro". The chapter exists to emphasize Zoro as a member of strawhat crew.

 

[Soyz]

You ain't ready for the fool summary

 

[rohithkun]

Am I?
Zoro was using Ryou pre time skip. Which is confirmed. Zoro unlocked Haki at most dirr moment.
Mihawk taught him CoA.
Entire dressrosa battle was Zoro armanent getting stronger.
Enma training, his Armanent got even stronger.

Zoro went all out with Ashura, He already had key components required for AdCoC. Which ryou and Haki coating.
He unlocked conqueror when he went all out and used AdCoC and Coc unconsciously.
Even after two arcs he isn't aware of it lmao.
He is yet to master it.
Entire Zoro Powers ups has been about Haki, how do you even call this 'nitpicking' lol.

But no, let's beg for Conqueror that good writing lol.

When did Sanji ever beg for conquerers haki? Did you know who begged for training? Zoro. Did you know why he did it? To become stronger for the captain. Same way Sanji has to become King to make Luffy the PK.

 

[Raiden7]

You ain't ready for the fool summary

We haven't had a real fool summary for a long time now

 

[kekaro]

its the fucking attempts of appearing to be objective that always get me, he literally made a comment about legitimately arguing for Law over Sanji and then just dropped the act and posted cherry-picks…

Does he really pretend the objective act is still being a literal callgirl for z-boys? lol

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Has his physical strength and haki hit a wall?

I'm not sure this is a fact? Shanks told us that bb will is the top and that he will keep striving for the top. Has BB reached the top yet? No he has not He is still aiming for the world a goal that he has not yet achieved. Sure bb is juicing himself with dfs i don't disagree there, but to say his haki has hit a wall when the guys will and ambition went from hiding behind wb shadow,to killing him, and currently he is still striving upward to even higher goals i dont see how his haki/ambition has hit any walls as you say.

For instance just as a comparison mihawk who achieved his wss title,black blade, and sits at the top of all swordsmen with no one to challenge him. The guy who said he would sit at the top and just wants a peaceful life until zoro comes This guy has hit said wall that you speak of imo but BB wall has no been hit at all he is still striving for higher goals.

Yes we saw his history at god valley but for whats its worth thats a lot of trauma for the guy its not all his. The importance was on his pops at the time not him having a coc haki moment there lol.

Grey terminal wasn’t about ace but there was a coc moment for him there. If Oda wanted to show it, he’d have shown it so the question is why. It’s not like there weren’t any fodders around him at any point there were fodders near him to knock out at lots of opportunity. And we can tell that his physicals have more or less peaked because whenever people in verse mention his growth it’s his devil fruits that are getting stronger never his haki.

As I said, Oda is just writing Blackbeard different for now. I’m not saying it’s impossible for BB to use CoC in the future, just as of right now I think oda is purposefully not because he has BB going a route opposite his father. Amassing devil fruits and using those to get stronger since fruit powers are what defeated Xebec.

 

[nik87]

People still acting like Sanji and Law aren't comparable? Post Elbaf Sanji will definitely surpass Egghead Law

Right now, Law lol diffs Sanji.
After aCoC, Sanji beats Law.
All the hax stops instantly.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Right now, Law lol diffs Sanji.
After aCoC, Sanji beats Law.
All the hax stops instantly.

Smoker stopped laws hax without coc?

 

[Midnight Delight]

Midnight posting a comment that is not a random nonsense.....

 

[HeroesNZ]

Is your point that CoC is hereditary or based on a hierarchical leader role? If not, what exactly is your specific requirement for it?

I find the claim of @HeroesNZ that Law has shown better justification for CoC in every sense, over Sanji… outright ridiculous.

Sanji maintained an impossible lifelong dream through abuse, escaped Germa to choose his own identity, led the Curly Hat group, repeatedly faced hopeless opponents and offered his life for Luffy. Law wins status and formal command. Sanji compares strongly in will, guts, leadership under pressure and personal conviction.

Surely you’ve got to be joking; Sanji is on panel telling people to abandon their dreams lmfaoo, he gave up again on WCI.

Are you seriously claiming that leading the Curly Hats ie the weakest members of his own pirate crew qualifies Sanji as a conqueror? 😂 Cmon bro.

Every Strawhat offers their life for Luffy, are they all conquerors?

These are weak reasons. Law’s case for conqueror based on personality and disposition is clearly amongst the strongest of new gen pirates. He refuses to submit to others and has never abandoned any ambition of his ever. He pursued Doflamingo until the ends of the earth and now he pursues answers to the will of D. Sanji has abandoned his dreams multiple times.

That alone makes Law’s case much greater, aside from being literally stated to be a leader of the next generation. Sanji getting CoC is completely fine, I’d only have an issue with it if he gets it and someone like Law doesn’t as that’s when we’re entering asspull territory.

 

[nik87]

Smoker stopped laws hax without coc?

Smoker is better CQC fighter than Sanji.
Just like Doffy. They are good enough not to fall victims of Law's ability.
We know how Sanji was treated in PH... Regarding Law's ability.

 

[Fn Lucci]

I legit don't know where are you trying to going with this yapping.

I always had Sanji unlocking CoC against the Gorosei or BBP commander, not against the Holy Knights, that's why i said it unlikely, but never doubted Sanji is a conqueror.

Stop talking nonsense and understand for once that the point here is not which arc Sanji would unlock CoC, it's that there were people saying Sanji would never get CoC, not a conqueror and no ambition. People who deliberately made fun of Sanji not having CoC while Luffy and Zoro had. Jesus christ, it's not like haven't discussed "Sanji Conqueror haki" every single month.

You're so butt hurt about the mockering, that you legit searched for old posts of mine for try to use it against me lol, search a single post of mine saying Sanji has no ambition or Sanji will never get CoC.

You're imagining arguments where there are none, and telling me I'm butthurt lol. Nice projecting. My point is that only one guy was really on the money about Elbaf

 

[sanjikun]

Anyone got pics of Sanji's coc?

 

[HeroesNZ]

Huh where did i put a limitation? I said post on even older one! nothing changed clearly since punk hazard, you are very smart

sabo 100% coc wanna bet account deletion?

On Sabo getting CoC?? Are YOU sure you wanna bet account deletion 😂 I’ll take that bet, I’ll even throw Coby in there too.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Imagine being set up by your own temple scholar

Dumb fuck @Fn Lucci tried stalking me instead reminded me that one of his fellow templedogs needs to permanently delete his account

All debts must be paid, I couldn't care less. I tried to make bets on the subject back then but no one took them, go figure.

 

[Cruxroux]

Inner wounds? Lmao

Yea even Luffy didn't pulled that off lmao