Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1187 Spoilers Discussion

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I’m not expecting a toddler to show CoC, I would just expect Blackbeard at some point in his pretty prominent screen time to show a hint of it, knock out fodder/someone comment on it/anything because it’s wild that he hasn’t shown it at all if he’s supposed to be a top tier CoC user. Heck not even a slight CoC clash or comment on it on Amazon Lily when he fought Boa.

Ambition doesn’t equate to having CoC, and Kaido was also aiming for higher goals up till his death, even he hit a wall on his haki.
Lol his hint is the scar on shanks, but regardless we will always come to a standstill .:Rofl:What can i say oda gave the guy two strong af df powers. I don't expect him to just aimlessly use up coc when his two fruits will counter most in the verse. Most who aim for the top have kingly ambition... sanji isn't aiming for anything at the top but as stated by gaban if luffy is to be pk sanji also needs to unlock it. I just think ur betting against a losing battle, we have so many more potential coc users coming now. If you ask me as far as kaido goes he doubted himself in the end and that mattered... his little mini flashback right at the end told us that looking a bit deeper imo since he was waiting for joyboy and he knew he would be defeated by joyboy but thats just my conclusion on that fight.
 
Zoro didn't beg for conquerors lmao.
Zoro begged to get stronger and he delivered with training and hardwork.

Meanwhile Gaban : Become a king, if you want conqueror.
:milaugh::ihaha:

Nothing was handed down to zoro.
The very frame you're quoting from felt heavy because Zoro lefr his pride. None felt that way for sanji because he has none.
Nothing was handed except magic swords that got him advcoa and advcoc :Rofl:
 
Lol his hint is the scar on shanks, but regardless we will always come to a standstill .:Rofl:What can i say oda gave the guy two strong af df powers. I don't expect him to just aimlessly use up coc when his two fruits will counter most in the verse. Most who aim for the top have kingly ambition... sanji isn't aiming for anything at the top but as stated by gaban if luffy is to be pk sanji also needs to unlock it. I just think ur betting against a losing battle, we have so many more potential coc users coming now. If you ask me as far as kaido goes he doubted himself in the end and that mattered... his little mini flashback right at the end told us that looking a bit deeper imo since he was waiting for joyboy and he knew he would be defeated by joyboy but thats just my conclusion on that fight.
I don’t think scarring shanks is a CoC hint. And hey so far I’m feeling pretty confident like I did in egghead when you swore Kizaru was going to show CoC.
 
Not sure why mihawk has to show proficiency i never really understood this:choppawhat:

1. Oda told us zoro goal is a kingly ambition in wano, mihawk has achieved that goal. How can zoro pursuit of the goal be a kingly ambition for him but mihawk aiming for and achieving that same goal is not a kingly ambition for him?

2.Only using Zoro with incomplete coc haki he permanently scarred kaido,defeated a lunarian with superior defense to kaido, Got serious and clapped lucci using adv coc and now currently he will grow stronger with his coc in this arc and defeat a holy knight. All these feats mihawk can do better than zoro.

3.Personally sure im down for it being coc related, but i think its more so the sword/swordsman becoming one. Using ryuma as my base we know that he had legendary moments 1.pushing the wg away 2.slaying the dragon over tha capital. The ryuma anime remake gave him shusui which made me think that ryuma had to make his black blade when he defended wano. Considering enma now it drained zoro ryou. Zoro comes to the conclusion he must go all out with his blades tp satisfy it. Imagine ryuma going all out with his blade fighting countless battles to push the wg back so much so that he is near death exausting his haki. Instead of Shusui breaking or killing ryuma it wants to continue fighting with ryuma forever so maybe its akin to the sword giving up its will and wanting to be with ryuma forever so it turns black,and is unbreakable allowing ryuma to essentially fight longer and harder without wasting any excess ryou on defense only needing application for massive cuts.

Lmao i went on a tangent.:milaugh:
1 and 2 are both subjective and what Zoro fans want with extra reaching. Nothing says about Mihawk or WSS has anything to do with kingly ambition. Zoro training with Mihawk did not achieve kingly anything so you assuming that Mihawk has it is what you want, not something stated in the manga. Just like how you say Zoro has scar Kaidou permanently but Kaidou's conclusion is that Zoro has CoC too / as well, Kaidou didn't hold it any higher than the feat from anyone having CoC. Kaidou saying "this scar will remain with me" (forever? For one hour? For a minute?) but continue fighting without any sign of weakness, and even keep getting stronger in strength, techniques, and CoC, didn't help Zoro's scarring feat either. CoC had lost its status of being special since many have it, and now even more so, anything powerscaling-related can and will change depending on Oda's whim without any regard of consistency or clear structure.

So i have no problem with you extrapolating stuff, but holding that strongly to favorites in powerscaling will just make Zoro fans disappointed. WB can't be the strongest forever. Luffy just beaten WSC's strongest attack with his own without ever being called WSC, Loki and Imu have no strongest title, Oda have no clear power structure, so WSS title is definitely not something absolute or worthy for fans to believe in.
 
Why was hermano dying from a sword that 4 year old oden can wield?
Seems like skill issue to me

>inbefore insane headcanon of stuff never stated in the manga
 
Sanji getting ACoC will be one of the greatest bias tests after how much this panel was spammed in arguments



No one else in the current generation was confirmed to have it between the moment Zoro got it and now. As long as Zoro was the last to jump on that boat it was treated as this most exclusive hype thing possible, so it will be interesting to see the reactions if Sanji is the next one to get on board.
 
he aint even confirmed to HAVE coc :josad:
He's obviously gonna have it
But the fact that he, Sanji AND Zoro took so long to even have it Hinted at is disgusting bad writing by Oda

Oda portrays CoC as something that people can feel even if you haven't unlocked it yet

Yet for Example Sanji never had it hinted at untill maybe Punk Hazard if you wanna count him leading the G5 Marines through charisma
 
Killingham has a trident as well, so we know he’s got combat ability on top of the broken nightmare devil fruit thing.
We talking about the Killingham, the guy that was getting styled on sanji while he was airborn and doing spinning kicks, right?
Not much hope in his CQC im afraid, maybe pissjuro level
 
Sanji getting ACoC will be one of the greatest bias tests after how much this panel was spammed in arguments



No one else in the current generation was confirmed to have it between the moment Zoro got it and now. As long as Zoro was the last to jump on that boat it was treated as this most exclusive hype thing possible, so it will be interesting to see the reactions if Sanji is the next one to get on board.
Haven't seen you in a long time damn.
 
No one else in the current generation was confirmed to have it between the moment Zoro got it and now. As long as Zoro was the last to jump on that boat it was treated as this most exclusive hype thing possible, so it will be interesting to see the reactions if Sanji is the next one to get on board
It already lost it's value.
:ihaha:
 
Sanji getting ACoC will be one of the greatest bias tests after how much this panel was spammed in arguments



No one else in the current generation was confirmed to have it between the moment Zoro got it and now. As long as Zoro was the last to jump on that boat it was treated as this most exclusive hype thing possible, so it will be interesting to see the reactions if Sanji is the next one to get on board.
They already dropped it as soon as they read the spoilers
0 spine
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