Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1187 Spoilers Discussion

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Sanji finally have something - basic CoC blast to knock down women...

No more handicap against nearly half of the OP world population:BigW:
Some of yall are dense, So He’s gonna Attack Killingham with basic CoC? Do yall think before yall type? Only form of conquerors that allows you to attack is Advanced………..
 
Life got busier for some months and i drifted away from posting here. I've been lurking though. Still reading spoilers and looking through the threads every now and then.

However i spent too much time debunking arguments about Sanji not having the qualities of a Conqueror while i was active, to not acknowledge now Gaban straight out telling us that he does, and that he must become a King for Luffy to become the King of the Pirates.

And with this



Oda also settles two other extensive arguments i had about the significance of Luffy's words towards Sanji at Whole Cake



and the significance of Robin's statement



single-handedly refuting the "Sanji's strength is not a significant factor" angle.
these kinds of comments throw me back to 2021, tough times :Luffy_Roll:
 
I said this before but elbaf = time skip training
  • The voice of all things = conquerors
  • Conquerors = armament + observation
Luffy needing to better mastery the voice of all things like he did conquerors
Zoro and Sanji needing to better understand and use conquerors like they did armament and observation
The rest of the crew unlocking basic armament and observation hopefully
Training for what
 
I don’t think scarring shanks is a CoC hint. And hey so far I’m feeling pretty confident like I did in egghead when you swore Kizaru was going to show CoC.
i'm curious what else do you believe bb could have done if shanks has coc haki and ryou barriers? how would bb get past those since shanks said he was not being careless or off guard and get permanently scarred?

Hey i was confident. Still am in all the admirals showing it. Still confident that ZKK will happen by the end. A MANS DREAM NEVER DIES :steef:
 
i'm curious what else do you believe bb could have done if shanks has coc haki and ryou barriers? how would bb get past those since shanks said he was not being careless or off guard and get permanently scarred?

Hey i was confident. Still am in all the admirals showing it. Still confident that ZKK will happen by the end. A MANS DREAM NEVER DIES :steef:
Blackbeards absurd raw physical strength that was highlighted multiple times.
 
1 and 2 are both subjective and what Zoro fans want with extra reaching. Nothing says about Mihawk or WSS has anything to do with kingly ambition. Zoro training with Mihawk did not achieve kingly anything so you assuming that Mihawk has it is what you want, not something stated in the manga. Just like how you say Zoro has scar Kaidou permanently but Kaidou's conclusion is that Zoro has CoC too / as well, Kaidou didn't hold it any higher than the feat from anyone having CoC. Kaidou saying "this scar will remain with me" (forever? For one hour? For a minute?) but continue fighting without any sign of weakness, and even keep getting stronger in strength, techniques, and CoC, didn't help Zoro's scarring feat either. CoC had lost its status of being special since many have it, and now even more so, anything powerscaling-related can and will change depending on Oda's whim without any regard of consistency or clear structure.

So i have no problem with you extrapolating stuff, but holding that strongly to favorites in powerscaling will just make Zoro fans disappointed. WB can't be the strongest forever. Luffy just beaten WSC's strongest attack with his own without ever being called WSC, Loki and Imu have no strongest title, Oda have no clear power structure, so WSS title is definitely not something absolute or worthy for fans to believe in.
I mean i hear ya but unlike wb who oda had admit to us the reader that he could not be the strongest forever, he did not do that for mihawk he had the guy say no matter how long it takes i will sit at the top until you reach me. Maybe that is a bit of reaching but for me it doesn't make any sense for oda to confirm mihawk as the stronger swordsman in comparison to shanks if his haki is not stronger unless he is goint to reveal that a black blade is superior to coc haki.
 
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