Chapter Discussion Sanji is being used as a hype tool again

What's this nonsense about Sanji getting KO'ed ?

He's not shown laying there on the ground, and then later on getting up.

He's not shown with white eyes like Luffy was when Zoro ran around with him.

He does not hold his head in pain being confused about what happened to him.

As i said in the Spoilers Thread, the outcome ended up being that King Failed his attempt to pierce Sanji with his beak, and whatever damage Sanji might have taken to the targeted area, in this case his stomach, it's minimal since there's no attention drawn to it, and the focus continues to be the durability of the RS.

He only has one of his cheeks slightly scuffed after crashing at high speed from high up, while posing with no discomfort alongside the other SH's



But that's arguably less then what happened to Denjiro or Ashura



When dropping at high speed from a high place.

At the end of the day this whole encounter served to hype RS Sanji while up against a Yonko First Mate.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
What's this nonsense about Sanji getting KO'ed ?

He's not shown laying there on the ground, and then later on getting up.

He's not shown with white eyes like Luffy was when Zoro ran around with him.

He does not hold his head in pain being confused about what happened to him.

As i said in the Spoilers Thread, the outcome ended up being that King Failed his attempt to pierce Sanji with his beak, and whatever damage Sanji might have taken to the targeted area, in this case his stomach, it's minimal since there's no attention drawn to it, and the focus continues to be the durability of the RS.

He only has one of his cheeks slightly scuffed after crashing at high speed from high up, while posing with no discomfort alongside the other SH's



But that's arguably less then what happened to Denjiro or Ashura



When dropping at high speed from a high place.

At the end of the day this whole encounter served to hype RS Sanji while up against a Yonko First Mate.
Sanji was hit by king before the numbers even arrived. He first moved after said numbers had been hit by franky. Was he playing dead in the interval ?
 
Sanji was hit by king before the numbers even arrived. He first moved after said numbers had been hit by franky. Was he playing dead in the interval ?
Can you provided a panel where he is koed like Zoro was koed by kamazou or Luffy by Apoo.
Oda can't show everything at the same time.
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This chapter just proves my earlier hypothesis of King being used as a hypetool for Sanji.
 
Sanji was hit by king before the numbers even arrived. He first moved after said numbers had been hit by franky. Was he playing dead in the interval ?
Making his way out of the rubble and the destroyed building.

He's shown to get out as soon as King makes an appearance in the sky, Luffy and Zoro hit the ground from Queen's throw, and the Number is reacting to the Laser Beam Franky used on him. A lot of this stuff happens at the same time or in very quick succession.

There needs to be solid evidence to make such claims, not base it entirely on assumptions. Oda shows us when characters get KO' ed, he did not do that here.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Making his way out of the rubble and the destroyed building.

He's shown to get out as soon as King makes an appearance in the sky, Luffy and Zoro hit the ground from Queen's throw, and the Number is reacting to the Laser Beam Franky used on him. A lot of this stuff happens at the same time or in very quick succession.

There needs to be solid evidence to make such claims, not base it entirely on assumptions. Oda shows us when characters get KO' ed, he did not do that here.
No king has left and assembled a flying force.
He didnt dig out of shit, the first panel is him prone..
So again what was he doing in the time from being hit , the numbers arriving, the numbers being hit if he wasnt kod ?
 
No king has left and assembled a flying force.
He didnt dig out of shit, the first panel is him prone..
So again what was he doing in the time from being hit , the numbers arriving, the numbers being hit if he wasnt kod ?
The first panel is not directly connected with the second one or what is happening outside of it. Only in the second one we see Luffy hitting the ground with Zoro and the Number getting hit.

So the first panel can happen before events that were shown on panel prior to it, with the second one catching up with the aftermath of those events. Sanji picks himself up and makes his way out of the building in the meantime. By the time he got out, King is in the Sky and Luffy and Zoro crash nearby.

It's a bit ridiculous that the go to assumption is KO' ed, without Oda showing it, showing any signs of it happening, showing any repercusion that would indicate it did happen, nothing.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
The first panel is not directly connected with the second one or what is happening outside of it. Only in the second one we see Luffy hitting the ground with Zoro and the Number getting hit.

So the first panel can happen before events that were shown on panel prior to it, with the second one catching up with the aftermath of those events. Sanji picks himself up and makes his way out of the building in the meantime. By the time he got out, King is in the Sky and Luffy and Zoro crash nearby.

It's a bit ridiculous that the go to assumption is KO' ed, without Oda showing it, showing any signs of it happening, showing any repercusion that would indicate it did happen, nothing.
Whats ridiculous is you wasting my time with this nonsense.
King attacks sanji before the numbers even show up, sanji only moved as the numbers are hit by franky, time clearly passes yet sanji doesnt move what was he doing playing dead ? Why didnt sanji move all that time.
 
Whats ridiculous is you wasting my time with this nonsense.
King attacks sanji before the numbers even show up, sanji only moved as the numbers are hit by franky, time clearly passes yet sanji doesnt move what was he doing playing dead ? Why didnt sanji move all that time.
What's nonsense is to make claims without evidence, with the knowledge that the author provides evidence when what you claim happened now, actually happened in the past.

"I dunno man what was he doin" is not evidence.

There's no sign of a KO, so it did not happen. I think i was clear enough in previous post not to have to repeat myself, so feel free not to " waste your time" if you want to continue to make unsupported claims.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
What's nonsense is to make claims without evidence, with the knowledge that the author provides evidence when what you claim happened now, actually happened in the past.

"I dunno man what was he doin" is not evidence.

There's no sign of a KO, so it did not happen. I think i was clear enough in previous post not to have to repeat myself, so feel free not to " waste your time" if you want to continue to make unsupported claims.
Theres nothing unsupported about it youre talking shit and you know it,

This is when sanji is hit.
In that time luffy leaves big mom and the rest
gets to zoro and flies up
and they both get intercepted by queen and sent back down as king assembles the flying force and reaches queen again
whilst franky aims a beam at meme THEN the numbers show so he fires at them
Then meme attacks franky is sent flying by jinbe and robin as the number is still falling.

Finally after all that as the number hits the floor sanji comes to and finally gets up.

So cut the bullshit why did sanji stay on the floor through all that if he wasnt kod ?
 
Genuine question : does this apply for all the characters or just for Sanji?
Of course all characters.

Look, if Sanji was shown on the ground not moving at the end of the last chapter, and getting back up right now at least, i could have seen that as Oda intending to show us a temporary loss of consciousness, but we got no inkling of that being the case here.

He could at least be shown holding his head in pain and saying that he does not know what happend to him, but instead he is only focused on getting out of the building to see if Momonosuke is alright, and being annoyed that the RS could take that hit so well. He's fully aware of everything that went down and how it went down.
 
Theres nothing unsupported about it youre talking shit and you know it,

This is when sanji is hit.
In that time luffy leaves big mom and the rest
gets to zoro and flies up
and they both get intercepted by queen and sent back down as king assembles the flying force and reaches queen again
whilst franky aims a beam at meme THEN the numbers show so he fires at them
Then meme attacks franky is sent flying by jinbe and robin as the number is still falling.

Finally after all that as the number hits the floor sanji comes to and finally gets up.

So cut the bullshit why did sanji stay on the floor through all that if he wasnt kod ?
I gave you my answer and understanding of the events, you can only press this one question because you have zero evidence.

@Rivaille brought up the question of bias here, and i have a hard time seeing someone immediately jump behind the KO argument with no proper evidence while not being biased on the matter.

Feel free to no longer waste your time if there's not more than you can put on the table and don't care for the arguments i already provided :cheers:
 
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