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What is Imu coolest blade ?


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Hopefully Gaban can finally show us exactly what he meant when he's telling luffy to "engrave the way you use your conquerors into your heart/spirit" which he said is imperative against immortals

Because it's undoubtedly true that how you utilise Haki is just as important as it's strength.
 
What was his position?

Roger specifically asked to borrow Oden for one year. He wasn't with them for the final leg of the voyage, so no, you can't take the proclamation literally for the sake of powerscaling. We saw them meet Oden and suggest double teaming him lol
Roger said that cause he planned to be dead at the end of that year lmao

Oden himself says he’s a Roger Pirate, so does Odens retainers.

It’s clear that Oden was counted in that quote lmao
 
I am sure you are lying again :suresure:, no sane Shanks fans would support Mihawk like crazy. I mean sure some Shanks fans might believe Mihawk might be close to Shanks or equal or even tiny bit stronger (which is rare), there is no way they would defend Mihawk like crazy like you do, so you are not even honest which tells me why you are mentally ill.
He is honest, he used to have Shanks > Mihawk in terms of who wins a 1v1, and he has always glazed shanks to the moon, then changes his mind on who wins in a 1v1, and talks trash about Mihawk's character instead and how shanks character is much better and all mihawk has is being stronger etc.

If I was a shanks-tard though I could definitely make some arguments as to why being stronger swordsman doesn't guaruntee MIhawk wins a 1v1 against a weaker swordsman, because we have the concept of Specialising in different kinds of haki, so there are factors outside of swordsmanship like CoC specialist techniques that can have Shanks fight on an even playing field with Mihawk, despite being weaker.

I still think on paper Mihawk has better win conditions.
 
Yeah both yonko and admirals are based but it was made clear that yonkos>admirals so why you guys keep talking about this is beyond my understanding. Pirate King and hia wings /Fleet admiral are the next level
Fleet Admiral is just an Admiral who sits behind his desk and does nothing but commanding and pushing bureaucracy.

There is no way Akainu is stronger just because he is a fleet admiral, as a matter of fact him sitting behind the desk and doing nothing is a obstacle.

You can argue that we‘ve haven‘t seen Akainu full potential when he was an Admiral, but him being stronger for being promoted makes no sense to me.
 
But Kaido is much stronger than KIng and Queen though.
And Luffy fought a nerfed Kaido who fought a literal onslaught of people prior, was exhausting himself carrying a city sized island, while Luffy received 2 full restores mid fight and still basically got a draw.

Zoro and Sanjis fights were way more one sided
 
So he didn‘t even believe he would‘ve killed him + he believed in the prophecy that Kaido could only be beaten 20 years in the future.
Yeah, which is odd considering Oden had all means to kill Kaido, I mean he was really about to.
Kaido survived DR Xebec without a scratch while literally being a cabin boy. Obviously different situation and Oden actually managed to leave a scar, maybe he would‘ve opened again after a second time and kill maybe not, but as you said it kinda tanked Kaido a bit. But the Rocks FB made him look cooler in someway.
Rocks Kaido was fun to read; not the mess we got in Wano instead where Kaido's character was literally all over the place.
On the other hand, DR Xebec was easily handling Dragon Kaido and threw him on a mountain. The entire part is complete bullshit since neither of them even tried to understand why their captain suddenly changed. I mean, I get Kaido being a bit slow but Big Mom and especially WB thought Xebec betrayed them when he even grew demonic wings after he fought some demonic blob lol? They just left the island altogether.

Let‘s be honest his crew is dogshit, bar him and King.
Even King is shit when it comes to his skillset.

This dude got massively carried by his Lunarian power - no CoC, no awakening. It makes things worse when we got 7 Lunarian Seraphims the next arc, with both Lucci and Kaku unlocking their freaking Zoan awakening during the timeskip lmao.

I get why Marco didn't show that much maybe because Oda still has some plot purpose for him in the final saga but there was no excuse why King didn't have CoC or awakening at least. Just look at Katakuri. This dude was extremely skilled. Logia-like DF, Future Sight, Awakening AND CoC. All Calamities needed 2 extra chapters for their Awakening. Okay, I mean, King doesn't have to be a CoC user - although it's extremely weird how he talked about kingly ambitions to Zoro but didn't even have it by himself lol (just like Kaido when he talked about Zoan Awakening but didn't have it either) - but Awakening is THE requirement.

He literally sat in an isolated county for 20 years and doing probably nothing, it had to be his strength that gave him the highest bounty to all living pirates at least.
It's also weird how Oda never bothered to show how many "top tiers" were even defeated by Kaido.
He's meant to be the WSC - a fraudulent title since Loki and Imu exist - and the guy who'd win any 1vs1 battle but his real top tier battle is against Oden and it ended with a stupid hostage situation which was extremely benefitial to Kaido.
 
Yeah both yonko and admirals are based but it was made clear that yonkos>admirals so why you guys keep talking about this is beyond my understanding. Pirate King and hia wings /Fleet admiral are the next level
Yonkos>Admirals isn't even remotely comparable since Big Mom exists lol. It just proves the Yonko ballpark isn't as close as people think it is.
 
Yeah, which is odd considering Oden had all means to kill Kaido, I mean he was really about to.


Rocks Kaido was fun to read; not the mess we got in Wano instead where Kaido's character was literally all over the place.
On the other hand, DR Xebec was easily handling Dragon Kaido and threw him on a mountain. The entire part is complete bullshit since neither of them even tried to understand why their captain suddenly changed. I mean, I get Kaido being a bit slow but Big Mom and especially WB thought Xebec betrayed them when he even grew demonic wings after he fought some demonic blob lol? They just left the island altogether.



Even King is shit when it comes to his skillset.

This dude got massively carried by his Lunarian power - no CoC, no awakening. It makes things worse when we got 7 Lunarian Seraphims the next arc, with both Lucci and Kaku unlocking their freaking Zoan awakening during the timeskip lmao.

I get why Marco didn't show that much maybe because Oda still has some plot purpose for him in the final saga but there was no excuse why King didn't have CoC or awakening at least. Just look at Katakuri. This dude was extremely skilled. Logia-like DF, Future Sight, Awakening AND CoC. All Calamities needed 2 extra chapters for their Awakening. Okay, I mean, King doesn't have to be a CoC user - although it's extremely weird how he talked about kingly ambitions to Zoro but didn't even have it by himself lol (just like Kaido when he talked about Zoan Awakening but didn't have it either) - but Awakening is THE requirement.



It's also weird how Oda never bothered to show how many "top tiers" were even defeated by Kaido.
He's meant to be the WSC - a fraudulent title since Loki and Imu exist - and the guy who'd win any 1vs1 battle but his real top tier battle is against Oden and it ended with a stupid hostage situation which was extremely benefitial to Kaido.

Sadly facts.

But to be frank neither Imu nor seemingly Loki is known to the public world.

The rumor of Kaido being the strongest is due the chapter 996(?) being called the island of the strongest + killer pushing that too.

The stupid SBS with mother being the strongest and using Kaido as a benchmark even them beinger stronger than him, than the magazine where Luffy‘s fight against the strongest pirate (Kaido) was going on and etc etc.

But in his introduction Oda made it clear that Kaido was seemingly rumored to be WSC. i don‘t know Oda, wano and Kaido was just an insane mess up
 
He is honest, he used to have Shanks > Mihawk in terms of who wins a 1v1, and he has always glazed shanks to the moon, then changes his mind on who wins in a 1v1, and talks trash about Mihawk's character instead and how shanks character is much better and all mihawk has is being stronger etc.

If I was a shanks-tard though I could definitely make some arguments as to why being stronger swordsman doesn't guaruntee MIhawk wins a 1v1 against a weaker swordsman, because we have the concept of Specialising in different kinds of haki, so there are factors outside of swordsmanship like CoC specialist techniques that can have Shanks fight on an even playing field with Mihawk, despite being weaker.
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He isn't honest. You just admitted if you were Shanks fan, you can even argue for Shanks winning vs Mihawk, I mean you can have Mihawk perhaps but arguing like crazy for Mihawk winning vs Shanks makes no sense for a Shanks fan when the majority of One Piece community has Shanks > Mihawk, let alone only for Shanks fans.
That's why @GalaxyLevelShanks is a liar pretending to be Shanks fan, we both know this is the truth but he will deny it. :suresure:
 
Yeah, which is odd considering Oden had all means to kill Kaido, I mean he was really about to.


Rocks Kaido was fun to read; not the mess we got in Wano instead where Kaido's character was literally all over the place.
On the other hand, DR Xebec was easily handling Dragon Kaido and threw him on a mountain. The entire part is complete bullshit since neither of them even tried to understand why their captain suddenly changed. I mean, I get Kaido being a bit slow but Big Mom and especially WB thought Xebec betrayed them when he even grew demonic wings after he fought some demonic blob lol? They just left the island altogether.



Even King is shit when it comes to his skillset.

This dude got massively carried by his Lunarian power - no CoC, no awakening. It makes things worse when we got 7 Lunarian Seraphims the next arc, with both Lucci and Kaku unlocking their freaking Zoan awakening during the timeskip lmao.

I get why Marco didn't show that much maybe because Oda still has some plot purpose for him in the final saga but there was no excuse why King didn't have CoC or awakening at least. Just look at Katakuri. This dude was extremely skilled. Logia-like DF, Future Sight, Awakening AND CoC. All Calamities needed 2 extra chapters for their Awakening. Okay, I mean, King doesn't have to be a CoC user - although it's extremely weird how he talked about kingly ambitions to Zoro but didn't even have it by himself lol (just like Kaido when he talked about Zoan Awakening but didn't have it either) - but Awakening is THE requirement.



It's also weird how Oda never bothered to show how many "top tiers" were even defeated by Kaido.
He's meant to be the WSC - a fraudulent title since Loki and Imu exist - and the guy who'd win any 1vs1 battle but his real top tier battle is against Oden and it ended with a stupid hostage situation which was extremely benefitial to Kaido.
Didnt Marco say he Doesnt want to babysit younger Pirates anymore or sth Like That
 
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