Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1189 Spoilers Discussion

[Sentinel]

Can someone break down the new Omen tier system? @Fujishiro

Why is YC1+ Zolo jobbing to Bummers

You mean "Yonko+ level, PK tier AP" Zoro?

 

[soupongo]

Can someone break down the new Omen tier system? @Fujishiro

Why is YC1+ Zolo jobbing to Bummers

No one actually knows, it hasn't been explained iirc. Imu briefly said it was his "military might". People have been debating if the Gorosei and others have it already or not.

 

[Quovelta]

Sommer overpowering a move that cut King's wing is wild. I get if Sommers only overpowered no named advCoC attack from Zoro but to think he even overpowered KOH's strongest attack that crippled King.

Sommers doesn't need advCoC to destroy King. He can just swing his sword randomly and King loses his limbs by accident.

 

[MarineHQ]

You mean "Yonko+ level, PK tier AP" Zoro?

Has he shown the capabilities to tag Katakuri yet?

 

[Sentinel]

Has he shown the capabilities to tag Katakuri yet?

Cool, so Katakuri vs Zoro is still a conversation right? 😂

 

[gz89]

Its a good thing Oda has Sommer overpower Zoro otherwise some dumb fuck heres will say he was just king or lucci level if Zoro won without using dragon damnation.

Some dumb fucks would say he's Lucci/King level while some other delulu Zorobros like you are comparing Bummers to Primebeard.

Guess who the biggest idiot is.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

If they give the Holy Knights aka the personal servants this much buff

Then imagine what they will give the Admirals whom they use as the greatest military force to maintain the global order

 

[Sentinel]

@MarineHQ

How far does Zoro push fruitless Kuzan? Can he get past Aramaki's vines?

 

[MarineHQ]

Cool, so Katakuri vs Zoro is still a conversation right? 😂

I mean, it's the ancient issue with Zoro. He's pretty much the very same fighter he was at Dressrosa except he hits harder and wastes more stamina even faster with KOH. That's a death sentence fighting someone like Kuri.

When Sanji gets buffs, he gets it in all areas power, speed, dura etc.

 

[Rivaille]

Super super Sommers is stronger physically then Zoro.
It is quite obvious now that Gram > any of Zoro’s swords.
And it seems that Maki = Adv CoC.
Now we still need to see how Omen affects the strength of his devil fruit but basically as of right now Super super Sommers is confortably above YC1 level. He is still a bum but an overpowered one.

Therefore the Omen boost + the weapon boost make someone significantly weaker than Sanji to be significantly stronger than Zoro.

 

[MarineHQ]

@MarineHQ

How far does Zoro push fruitless Kuzan? Can he get past Aramaki's vines?

Fruitless Kuzan we can talk about it being somewhat of a struggle (without Ice glove) but Aramaki rapes him. No diff.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Omen boost would be pointless if Super Sommer is still inferior to a Zoro's victim from 5 years ago tbh

 

[L57]

Fruitless Kuzan we can talk about it being somewhat of a struggle (without Ice glove) but Aramaki rapes him. No diff.

penaldog

 

[Konstantis]

The Nerona family has a very special COO.

Yes, so Yoru is Grandpa Imu sword?

 

[nik87]

Its a good thing Oda has Sommer overpower Zoro otherwise some dumb fuck heres will say he was just king or lucci level if Zoro won without using dragon damnation.





Dragon Damnation made it Absolutely Clear Super Sommmer>>>>>>>King and lucci (yc1 level).





Now we need more explanation about the sword do they have haki from previous users too?

I would not jump the gun yet...
We dont know how Shitters overpowered Zoro, it shouldn't be possible given the dynamics of powers used in the clash.
Regardless of what Omen gave to Sommers, it is likely not the reason for overpowering Zoro.

It is likely the magic sword Gram's ability that also negged Ragnir+Loki combo.
There is nothing yet to judge who is stronger between Shitters and King.
King was a full package, Shitters might be just magical sword swallower.

 

[Julius]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2080484414144884936

 

[Redboy776]

Before this chapter,Top tier gatekeeper fans aka ladmirals fans:" Sommer is Bumm. I can rest easy knowing zoro wont fight someone above king this arc. He is finished."


After chapter, Top tier gatekeepers fans aka ladmirals fans: "this is bad, the way Sommer is moving if we dont discredit him and let this confinue he will threaten our agenda."



They know the implication of Zoro beating Super Gram Sommer this arc, so they trying to downplay.




Notice how no one give a fuck about Killingham post boost?


Off course the threat to their agenda is Wommer who got feat against AdvCoC gaban before Omen boost and now overpowered Zoros Dragon Damnation.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

So now Sommers has Imu stats and is > Primebeard
Omen boost is crazy ngl, it really makes me want to see Shamrock with it

 

[Julius]

King was a full package

King would have gotten his sword (CoA coated) cut in half, would be lying on the ground if he was in Sommers place tbh

Maybe since Zoro didn't knew he had CoC, he is still lacking a lot (Gaban's words: You need to be aware of it for it to be tamed)

 

[Redboy776]

I would not jump the gun yet...
We dont know how Shitters overpowered Zoro, it shouldn't be possible given the dynamics of powers used in the clash.
Regardless of what Omen gave to Sommers, it is likely not the reason for overpowering Zoro.

It is likely the magic sword Gram's ability that also negged Ragnir+Loki combo.
There is nothing yet to judge who is stronger between Shitters and King.
King was a full package, Shitters might be just magical sword swallower.

Yeah Gram is Yonko + level weapon it make sense ut block Zoros dragon damnation.

Whatever level loki fans got Dragon Loki with his lightning named attack, that is the minimum level needed to stop dragon damnation.