Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1189 : King of the World
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Holy knights are one piece world version of pay to win player
They receive fancy devil fruit, legendary sss weapons, regeneration, and many other buffs.
By themselves they not strong, and probably their biggest weakness is that they depend too much of all the advantages they have, whenever they fight an equal in terms of strength they lose miserably.
They receive fancy devil fruit, legendary sss weapons, regeneration, and many other buffs.
By themselves they not strong, and probably their biggest weakness is that they depend too much of all the advantages they have, whenever they fight an equal in terms of strength they lose miserably.
I don't think that last part is correct? When have we ever seen them lose to an equal in strength? In fact, I'm pretty sure they are basically guaranteed to win against an equal in strength, BECAUSE of their advantages. They lose miserably against those significantly stronger than them. But almost anyone would do that, its not unique to the HK's.
Biblo is going to tell Chopper the truth, that he is the Forest God.
Really want to see Biblo and Ragnir interact.
Jinbe, Franky, Zoro, Sanji, and Luffy all have fairly legit New World feats.
I think this is where we'll see the weaker half pop off.
Brook Awakening
Chopper Awakening
Usopp becomes Sogeking through Bonney's Distortion Future
Nami CoC Unlock
Robin Awakening
Chopper's the only one I'm not sure of. Awakening happens when your mind and body are in sync, which is why I think Robin and Brook are going to get it here: after reuniting with Saul, Robin seems to be at peace with herself, and Brook learning the truth about Shuri should fix his mental hang ups.
I think Jinbe will help Sanji out with Killingham, since Zaza is like OH MY GOSH JUST LET JINBE FIGHT HER SHE'S LITERALLY MADE OUT OF WATER, GIVE HIM SOMETHING
And Robin will help out Zoro with Sommers
Chopper, Usopp, Brook, and Nami pulling up to Imu meaning business.
Vivi in Chapter 1200, I hope.
Really want to see Biblo and Ragnir interact.
Jinbe, Franky, Zoro, Sanji, and Luffy all have fairly legit New World feats.
I think this is where we'll see the weaker half pop off.
Brook Awakening
Chopper Awakening
Usopp becomes Sogeking through Bonney's Distortion Future
Nami CoC Unlock
Robin Awakening
Chopper's the only one I'm not sure of. Awakening happens when your mind and body are in sync, which is why I think Robin and Brook are going to get it here: after reuniting with Saul, Robin seems to be at peace with herself, and Brook learning the truth about Shuri should fix his mental hang ups.
I think Jinbe will help Sanji out with Killingham, since Zaza is like OH MY GOSH JUST LET JINBE FIGHT HER SHE'S LITERALLY MADE OUT OF WATER, GIVE HIM SOMETHING
And Robin will help out Zoro with Sommers
Chopper, Usopp, Brook, and Nami pulling up to Imu meaning business.
Vivi in Chapter 1200, I hope.
Considering Gyaban's Mountain Eater epithet comes from him cutting down a shit-ton of trees, I think it was Gyaban, but it's not really clear.
NGL, until today, I didn't even know the freaking tree got cut in the first place.
Could have easily been Imu. Maybe Gyaban can actually redirect Haki/force with his axes? So... he absorbed Imu's attack partially, then directed the force to not cut Luffy, but the Tree itself?
NGL, until today, I didn't even know the freaking tree got cut in the first place.
Could have easily been Imu. Maybe Gyaban can actually redirect Haki/force with his axes? So... he absorbed Imu's attack partially, then directed the force to not cut Luffy, but the Tree itself?
Loved this chapter not just for Usopps' sake, but all the setup we finally got with Chopper interacting with animals like the majority of the fans always wanted to happen.
Speaking of Usopp, I find it hilarious that some chapters ago he was the one joking about Excalibur while he was drunk, and now we are getting all these crazy weapons.
It's like he has seen into the future again.
The only other time excalibur was referenced was with X Drakes attack name being based on it. So I wonder if Excalibur will be a real thing too, just like Gram from Norse mythology became real now.
According to lore, just keeping the Scabbard of Excalibur on you prevents you from dying from blood loss, no matter how severely you get hurt. Wouldn't it be nice to have something like that against Imu as your enemy?
Not saying Luffy is going to be saved by some magical weapon right now, but it's an interesting development.
Speaking of Usopp, I find it hilarious that some chapters ago he was the one joking about Excalibur while he was drunk, and now we are getting all these crazy weapons.
It's like he has seen into the future again.
The only other time excalibur was referenced was with X Drakes attack name being based on it. So I wonder if Excalibur will be a real thing too, just like Gram from Norse mythology became real now.
According to lore, just keeping the Scabbard of Excalibur on you prevents you from dying from blood loss, no matter how severely you get hurt. Wouldn't it be nice to have something like that against Imu as your enemy?
Not saying Luffy is going to be saved by some magical weapon right now, but it's an interesting development.
Who has Luffys Vivre Card?
- Grand Fleet
- Sabo (indirectly Dragon)
Anyone else? Rayleigh? Boa?
I thought the main reason was that his allies could show up. But none showed up to Kaidos turf. Although Wano is notoriously hard to reach, they could have been just outside somewhere. Could we finally see them rock up to Elbaph?
Also, it would make sense if Shanks has Gabans Vivre Card making him show up as well.
Shanks + Dragon vs Imu.
- Grand Fleet
- Sabo (indirectly Dragon)
Anyone else? Rayleigh? Boa?
I thought the main reason was that his allies could show up. But none showed up to Kaidos turf. Although Wano is notoriously hard to reach, they could have been just outside somewhere. Could we finally see them rock up to Elbaph?
Also, it would make sense if Shanks has Gabans Vivre Card making him show up as well.
Shanks + Dragon vs Imu.
@CoC: Color of Clowns
Oh, yeah, I forgot to add this. What do you think about this colored cover from chapter 217 ? I am sure you have seen it before. Since you are a big advocate of Vivi coming to Elbaf, could this also have been a hint all this time ?
Oh, yeah, I forgot to add this. What do you think about this colored cover from chapter 217 ? I am sure you have seen it before. Since you are a big advocate of Vivi coming to Elbaf, could this also have been a hint all this time ?
@CoC: Color of Clowns
Oh, yeah, I forgot to add this. What do you think about this colored cover from chapter 217 ? I am sure you have seen it before. Since you are a big advocate of Vivi coming to Elbaf, could this also have been a hint all this time ?
Oh, yeah, I forgot to add this. What do you think about this colored cover from chapter 217 ? I am sure you have seen it before. Since you are a big advocate of Vivi coming to Elbaf, could this also have been a hint all this time ?
Love Vivi's pose here, so cool.
Found it in higher quality so I can see the squirrel better, my eyes aren't what they used to be. NO, NOT A CASUAL OLD MAN STATEMENT, GAHHHHHH
A lot to unpack here:
-The Giant Tree (maybe a branch of one?) is a clear Adam Tree/Yggrasil nod
-We have a squirrel in a viking helmet to the left, that's a clear Ragnir reference
-Luffy is standing on a tree and two swords: foreshadowing Imu stabbing him into the Adam Tree on Elbaph?
-Multiple swords also Imu foreshadowing
-Any idea what plant the squirrel has in their mouth? Could be important
-Luffy's Sword has a Lion on it. Lion-Man foreshadowing?
-Vivi also has Big Mom colors, furthering my hope Linlin arrives here, too
-Vivi has a mark on her chest, much like the God's Knights, an anchor symbol. Foreshadowing God's Seal?
-Luffy is holding a bag of meat. Maybe Vivi will bring Luffy a bunch of home cooking as a gift? He needs it right now
Karoo and Vivi are the 11th and 12th Straw Hats. We are approaching chapter 1200. 12 = 1200. I think this is when Vivi will return.
"Currently in the story it’s being set up that Vivi is going to rejoin the Strawhats for the final saga. However while I wouldn’t call Vivi weak she still not strong enough to compete with the threats upcoming in this final saga. The fastest way to fix this is to give her a DF and the 1 I think she’s gonna eat is the Paw Paw Fruit. I think this because in SBS 59 there’s a question where someone points out that the SH’s DF’s translate to the numbers 1-10 Gomu (5,6) Hito (1,10) Hana (8,7) and Yami (4,3) and the only 1 missing is 2,9 which would be the Paw fruit and Oda pretty much dodges the question. All the other SH’s without DF’s wouldn’t eat 1 because it wouldn’t work or hinder their fighting styles so that leaves Vivi. U might say If Kuma dies at the Red Line why the fruit reincarnate at Egghead well the thing that represents his humanity and makes him him is at Egghead his memory bubble so when he dies I think his fruit would appear there. It even works in the sense where both Vivi and Kuma are both Royalty who have/had served under a D clan member and Vivi will use Kuma’s power to carry on Kuma’s Will to free the world."
The one problem I have with Vivi returning is I'm like 99% Kuma is dying and Vivi will get his Fruit, and became a Cat Girl representing the Sea Cat.
Why is the Sea Cat a sacred animal?
Because the OG user of the Nikyu Fruit WAS a Sea Cat, the Queen of Alabasta, Nefertari Lili, and she used her powers to spread the Poneglyphs across the world. What other power in One Piece could reliably scatter the Poneglyphs like that during a period of such tumultuous war, where travel was most likely incredibly difficult?
I think Gyaban will die in Act 4, I think he survives here.
But I am extremely worried about Jarul and Saul, and I think Kuma is 100% dying here.
Bonney will turn Kuma into Nika Kuma, so he can be "himself" again for a bit, and he'll either die kicking Imu off the country (what I hope), or, if Imu DOES succeed in this battle, Kuma will teleport everyone off Elbaph using his superpowers.
After Kuma dies, Vivi eats his Fruit. Since Kuma's Fruit is very powerful, and he seemed to be a master of it, I think Kuma might be able to control WHERE his Fruit respawns. If that's the case, Vivi is the perfect candidate, and this Fruit allows her to fit the Healer Class the Straw Hats lack. They have a Medic/Doctor, but not a magical healer, like a Cleric. Oda LOVES his RPG class stuff, the Warlords all are inspired by an old JRPG.
The Squirrel in this Cover Spread also makes me believe Lili and Ragnir were close, and that Ragnir will respond very positively to seeing Vivi. We might even get a small flashback to Lili and Ragnir chilling.
The Squirrel is also wearing a necklace. Not sure if this is important, but, the Squirrel def has swag.
I think we'll see Vivi return at Chapter 1200 or around it. Hopefully with Karoo.
As for how Vivi gets there, here's my ideas:
1: Steals Morgans' ship.
2: Jumps off Morgans' ship onto a ship below, or flying nearby, possibly foreshadowed here.
3. Vivi contacts Alabasta via Den Den Mushi, and has Pell pick her up (while Pell carries Karoo).
Since we haven't seen Pell in awhile, I hope he picks Vivi up, though I can easily see her hijacking the ship, or her jumping onto either the Revs or Red Hair Pirates sailing to Elbaph (I believe both the Revolutionaries and Red Hair Pirates have ships that can fly due to Dragon's DF and Shanks' Sword Gryphon eating the Gryphon Fruit, and carrying the Red Force).
Either way, Kuma is squaring up with Imu, soon.
One thing that interests me, is Kidd should be able to repair machines at a rate even Vegapunk and Franky would have a hard time matching. Since we haven't seen Kidd yet, I've wondered if he's helping heal Kuma.
Only thing that bothers me about Vivi's arrival on Elbaph is when Imu starts simping it's really going to ruin the aura he's been building, and fans are going to complain out the ass over it, but, that's One Piece.
The King of the Celestial Dragons is clearly a giant simp, and either Nami or Vivi is going to be our first exploration into how bad of a simp Imu is.
(looks up)
Bro I miss Vivi BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
This chapter all but confirms that Imu was spiritual brothers with Joyboy and Davy Jones, right?
Or at least it heavily hints at it
An ill-mannered trio of siblings
2 D’s and a noble
Joyboy (D), Davy Jones (D), Imu (Noble)
Keep going Oda…
Or at least it heavily hints at it
An ill-mannered trio of siblings
2 D’s and a noble
Joyboy (D), Davy Jones (D), Imu (Noble)
Keep going Oda…
I think Davy Jones is honestly one of the most interesting characters in the series right now, I'm fascinated to learn about that dude.
