Controversial General Political Discussion

[Blax Blah]

USSR was as socialist as it will ever get. You’re falling for the “no true Scotsman” fallacy

Socialism is an economic system, do you think it’s an ideology?

Well I mean what do you think socialism is?

I think socialism is a means of production where the workers own the workplace democratically

 

[Roo]

No, it's simply the fact of being renforced into a position by sources I know will reenforce it.. The interesting thing happens only when said sources won't reenforce it. And confirmation biases applied I'll tend to trust them, therefore creating a cycle of politicization. It's not really that complicated.

Maybe because I’m tired and hungry at work but can you be more concise I have 0 idea what you’re saying.

confirmation bias is exactly what I described lol. Don’t see how you can disagree with that

Do you consider that socialism has failed more than capitalism?

Capitalism has been tried more than socialism so sure, in aggregate it fails more

socialism has failed at a higher percentage than capitalism.

 

[Blax Blah]

Not gonna lie, reading about economics and history makes me physically hungry

 

[Roo]

Well I mean what do you think socialism is?

I think socialism is a means of production where the workers own the workplace democratically

“Means of production” is an economic term lol.

 

[Roo]

Not gonna lie, reading about economics and history makes me physically hungry

It was pretty boring stuff, I just got it because it made my finance degree look better on paper

 

[Blax Blah]

“Means of production” is an economic term lol.

I mean yeah it is but eh it's not like working with formulas

 

[Blax Blah]

It was pretty boring stuff, I just got it because it made my finance degree look better on paper

I actually did some economics in college but I mean not gonna lie I'm seriously considering it for the fun of it

Might be just because it makes me hungry though

 

[Midnight Delight]

Considering my degree in economics you tell me

Are you Keynesian

 

[Blax Blah]

It was pretty boring stuff, I just got it because it made my finance degree look better on paper

I mean yeah it is but eh it's not like working with formulas

Imo it's more of a social term

 

[Roo]

I mean yeah it is but eh it's not like working with formulas

How exactly do you think it’s efficiency is measure? Or how to allocate what goods or services goes to where? How much the workers are paid?

If you’re just vibe politicking you’re kind of a joke lol

 

[Logiko]

Maybe because I’m tired and hungry at work but can you be more concise I have 0 idea what you’re saying.

I basically tried to explained how I created a system of politicization when I moved from being a conspiracy theorist confused rightist to being a marxist, using my confirmation biases as tools instead of road blocks.

socialism has failed at a higher percentage than capitalism

What makes you think that?

 

[Roo]

Are you Keynesian

I guess

 

[Blax Blah]

How exactly do you think it’s efficiency is measure? Or how to allocate what goods or services goes to where? How much the workers are paid?

If you’re just vibe politicking you’re kind of a joke lol

I'm not in the role of managing their efficiency though


Means of production in this context means the workplace, and the idea is just, abolish the stockholders' role and make the workers the stockholders

 

[Roo]

Imo it's more of a social term

Economics is a sociology

 

[Roo]

I'm not in the role of managing their efficiency though


Means of production in this context means the workplace, and the idea is just, abolish the stockholders' role and make the workers the stockholders

And how exactly do we spread that? How much is each worker getting? And how do we measure how well a company does afterwards? How does this impact worker productivity?

it all requires calculations

 

[Blax Blah]

And how exactly do we spread that? How much is each worker getting? And how do we measure how well a company does afterwards? How does this impact worker productivity?

it all requires calculations

I mean yeah but the idea is just giving it to the workers and removing the stockholders' role

 

[Okamakama]

What is socialism to you?

Literally just answered, to be honest.

I explained how confirmation biases was used in my method. It's subtil, but it's there, read it.

 

[Roo]

I mean yeah but the idea is just giving it to the workers and removing the stockholders' role

We don’t do stuff in vibes, we have to understand how things work and the impact it has.

 

[Blax Blah]

We don’t do stuff in vibes, we have to understand how things work and the impact it has.

I'm just saying that's what socialism is

How could it have a bad effect, btw?

 

[Roo]

I'm just saying that's what socialism is

And I’m telling why it’s an economic system and why economist debate over it.