Character Discussion Old Gaban Performance Bets? Which Agenda Wins?

#42
What treatement? Garp went out looking great, and Ray stalled Kizaru and made BB run away.
Weaker than Yonkou, Rayleigh himself said in his prime he could have a chance. Not now.
Garp went out after 1 Stab, 1 Punch.
Someone for a top tier shouldn't have trouble with Yonkou commander especially lower ranks.
Aokiji was only major contender. And he somehow looked worse than old Garp idk how.
But Aokiji still had the fight in him.

So Yonkou>admiral>~Old legends is a given.
Both Luffy and Loki are considered Yonkou by certain fandom btw.
 

Fujishiro

Im the poisoner.
#43
Weaker than Yonkou, Rayleigh himself said in his prime he could have a chance. Not now.
Garp went out after 1 Stab, 1 Punch.
Someone for a top tier shouldn't have trouble with Yonkou commander especially lower ranks.
Aokiji was only major contender. And he somehow looked worse than old Garp idk how.
But Aokiji still had the fight in him.

So Yonkou>admiral>~Old legends is a given.
Both Luffy and Loki are considered Yonkou by certain fandom btw.
Luffy should be relative to Kaido, Kaido aknowledged him pre G5.
 
#44
Go ahead admiral twerkers lets hear your thoughts don’t hide now after all your excessive Loki wank:suresure:
I know you're targeting the new heretical sect of L'oki dogs led by their leader L'ee, within the Admiral agenda, but
there's literally nothing better for the Admiral agenda as a whole than Old Gaban wank. He's confirmed below the other legends and Admiral bros had to endure a decade long shit talking, because they didn't wash the old legends 2 mins into their fights.
 
#45
Luffy should be relative to Kaido, Kaido aknowledged him pre G5.
I wish but,
- Kaidou actively carrying the island is canon.
- Kaidou went on to fight 1v1 with gear 5, pulling an extreme diff therr as well.
- Practically no rest and no recovery given he was constantly fighting.

AdCoC mastered is a ticket to top tier, that's all I'll say. Not that he was relative.
AdCoC only enabled Luffy to fight kaidou now and do some meaningful damage. Not just CoA internal destruction.
 

Fujishiro

Im the poisoner.
#46
I wish but,
- Kaidou actively carrying the island is canon.
- Kaidou went on to fight 1v1 with gear 5, pulling an extreme diff therr as well.
- Practically no rest and no recovery given he was constantly fighting.

AdCoC mastered is a ticket to top tier, that's all I'll say. Not that he was relative.
AdCoC only enabled Luffy to fight kaidou now and do some meaningful damage. Not just CoA internal destruction.
Kaido literally stated that Luffy can go toe to toe with him pre G5, I know Kaido did well against G5 but in the end he lost. Like his words have more weights than yours for me.
 
#48
I wish but,
- Kaidou actively carrying the island is canon.
- Kaidou went on to fight 1v1 with gear 5, pulling an extreme diff therr as well.
- Practically no rest and no recovery given he was constantly fighting.

AdCoC mastered is a ticket to top tier, that's all I'll say. Not that he was relative.
AdCoC only enabled Luffy to fight kaidou now and do some meaningful damage. Not just CoA internal destruction.
From his performance in Egghead and Elbaf, Luffy seems to belong to the low top tier range. And when he is not completely serious, he is even lower, probably comparable to YC2 tier.
 
#49
Kaido literally stated that Luffy can go toe to toe with him pre G5, I know Kaido did well against G5 but in the end he lost. Like his words have more weights than yours for me.
Kaidou stated a lot of things.
- Haki transcends all? You agree with that?
- He placed oden alongside Roger and co? You agree with that?

How does one go toe to toe with a weaker form to extreme diffing the strongest form? Make it make sense for me... or Luffy base and gear 5 nesrly has no gap.
 

Fujishiro

Im the poisoner.
#50
Kaidou stated a lot of things.
- Haki transcends all? You agree with that?
- He placed oden alongside Roger and co? You agree with that?

How does one go toe to toe with a weaker form to extreme diffing the strongest form? Make it make sense for me... or Luffy base and gear 5 nesrly has no gap.
Haki transcends all I mean Imus haki has been highlighted the most so yeah its not wrong.

Luffy was near death is the easiest explanation.
 
#51
Haki transcends all I mean Imus haki has been highlighted the most so yeah its not wrong.
Has it?
His other powers are more broken.
Since he came to elbaf in his real body he hasn't usrd conqueror even once as coating. Only bursts.

Which weaker than Joyboy Haki burst and compared shanks Haki himself.


Luffy was near death is the easiest explanation.
What does that even prove?
Did Kaidou high diff Luffy G4 and then extreme diffed G5?
That way Base is low~mid diff. How is that toe to toe.
 
#53
I know you're targeting the new heretical sect of L'oki dogs led by their leader L'ee, within the Admiral agenda, but
there's literally nothing better for the Admiral agenda as a whole than Old Gaban wank. He's confirmed below the other legends and Admiral bros had to endure a decade long shit talking, because they didn't wash the old legends 2 mins into their fights.
he's stronger than bumgoku.
But this will shut people for WAKAINU, WUZAN and WIZARU doubters. Kaido can lick their boots.
 
#54
Gaban is a victim of Kaido’s presence and the fear he spread across the world. Forget comparing him to Kaido. Kaido is on a completely different level. Even Whitebeard and his entire crew fell victim to the sheer monstrosity and terror Kaido radiated.


 
#59
Would be so funny if Gaban does "well" and drops a dialogue along the lines of "unlike Rayleigh, I fought and lived in the strongest island in the world after retirement which has kept my level high"

which kills all Old Rayleigh upscale and anyone who scales to him
Lol if gaban mention Ray or Roger it will only be to place them above himself in the crises elbaf is facing imo.

:risitameh:
 
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