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Who did better against Imu ?


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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
I will repeat it. Loki is only free because Luffy can defeat him, and Gaban confirms this by handing over the key to release him.
It is not just Luffy. Even Gaban believes it too. Otherwise, Loki would never have been set free.
Loki is free because he convinced everyone to free him when he told them the truth of his backstory. Even Hajrudin said to free him.

Luffy claimed he would beat Imu’s ass and that he could not lose, to then get easily negged one chapter later. Luffy claiming he would beat Loki’s ass has less relevance than him claiming he would beat Imu’s ass lol.

Keep coping because you know the entire internet now recognizes your favorite as a worthless side character lol. If Kaido was on Elbaph, Imu would have negged him easier than he negged buffed Nika.
 
Just because they had preparation time in order to gather shadows/forge contracts, doesnt mean they are exceptions. Their ability simply has great potential but...
...BUT, Haki conquers everything, including their abilities
It's more than prep work.
They are literally golden child/chosen one typa shit.
- No other Yonkou/Admiral can consume multiple devil fruit. I don't think even Imu can pull that off.
- Having two overly powerful devilfruit. Either you eat two or Take dual weilding. Loki was lucky he was one door away from two mythical zoan.

None of the Crew has shown such powerful DF together., Bigmom only She had the OP devil fruit, second best was a fuckin mochi.

Kaidou crew, only Kaidou had it, and second best Yanato fruit went rogue. After that df wasn't worth anything.

Blackbeard literally has hands on two strongest devil fruit in his category. Logia and Paramacia.

They are way past luck and Human limits.
 
I expect him to be decent but don't forget pre G5 luffy had ACoC , FS , both ACoA.
Do you see croc having all those PUs ?
He does not need all of that to be decent as you say he has good DF but pre g5 luffy was monster and now he don't even have the G4 nerf .
I don't expect Croc to have all that of course.

But a strong enough CoA, even ACoA, better fruit usage, new named stuff, decent CoO.
 
You gotta give it to Oda, man.

Anticipating the coping scholars from the Godfy fandom, he went out of his way to make Luffy himself state he was in his PEAK condition and was 100% sure he couldn't lose TO ANYONE.

Much like when he made Luffy compare Sanji directly to Gaban when they met.

This author, when he deems worthy, will completely murder copium in its crib.

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The only people that think luffy would not losing is people who don't know how Oda write OP lol.
Luffy was 100% losing the question was how bad to hype Imu .
Oda had luffy lose vs kaido 4 times and luffy said he was going to win and even train for 2 weeks .
 
If you take 2019/2020 you have people think Katakuro Gove old Rayleigh to high difficulty fight, or yamato is Admiral level or stronger than old Rayleigh. OG before 2022 knew how insa.e yonko wank are. Heck King is stronger than is common take on 2021 before greenbull neg diff him. Base luffy can low diff or gear 4 can.beat Admiral before eggland arc, doesn't need gear.5 to fight Admiral. It was pure he'll for Admiral fans to deal with upnko.fans to debate.

They used to say fruitless Admiral is yc1 level.
 
If you take 2019/2020 you have people think Katakuro Gove old Rayleigh to high difficulty fight, or yamato is Admiral level or stronger than old Rayleigh. OG before 2022 knew how insa.e yonko wank are. Heck King is stronger than is common take on 2021 before greenbull neg diff him. Base luffy can low diff or gear 4 can.beat Admiral before eggland arc, doesn't need gear.5 to fight Admiral. It was pure he'll for Admiral fans to deal with upnko.fans to debate.

They used to say fruitless Admiral is yc1 level.
Post WCI was Yonkou level already according to some.
Only for him get one shotted.
 
Look at the logic of the retarded Loki and Harald fans.
They use this panel to hype up both of them:
According to them, Harald was the strongest being in the world and unstoppable to anyone, far above PK+++, and Loki defeated that guy, reaching a “Demigod” level far beyond the unstoppable Harald.

Then a chained Loki says he will destroy any pirate crew he, Luffy, wants, and they take that completely literally. BUT the irony of all this is:

Loki was destroyed by Shanks. In the worst-case scenario, it was Shanks plus his crew, which is the denial option used by Loki fans. But apparently, all you need to defeat and chain the transcendent being known as Loki, the killer of HK Harald, is a pre-Yonko Shanks plus a crew of WEAK commanders. The so-called man who claims he can destroy any pirate crew was literally defeated and chained by one.

And the funniest part is that the beast Loki, the unstoppable one, the Demigod, was released by an Emperor who said several times that he could defeat him.

Even in the worst-case scenario, Gaban, the same guy who hyped up Loki and Harald and said several things about them, handed an Emperor the key to release Loki. He did this after Loki had killed HK Harald and after witnessing all of it.

In the end, all you need to do to convince Gaban and make him hand over the key to release the man who killed HK Harald is show him Gear 5. @Elder Lee Hung
 
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