Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1190 Spoilers Discussion

[EmperorKinyagi]

Really? You disappeared for the last six months but when I stop posting during a back to back break week it matters?

You really should've learned by now that none of your opinions mean jack shit to me. You can project whatever reasons you want onto my absence, I don't give a fuck.

Old Gaban > Kaido

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He never was. What made him that? Mid diffing Loki or low diffing Luffy?

That alongside other things

 

[Topi Jerami]

Talking about crying, who cried like a bitch in front of 16 y.o. girl's bedroom?
Hint: he is daddy's son

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Just saw another source say Gaban scars Imu

It’s so over the old gen is actually > yonko

Never want to see “hurr durr admirals only fight old men” ever again

 

[PuckTheGreat]

I wonder if this "Bone Eater" katana's hax power is basically a guaranteed avulsion. So, no matter how much force is exerted, if the blade or one of its slashes makes contact with any part of a living creature's body, it just rips it off or consumes it to power itself. That's probably too op, though.

dang totally forgot that Imu's weapons all have unique abiltiies
so Waban was going against two weapons (Xintiang Axe and Bone Eater) + Maki with just his two Axes and still managed to injure Imu

 

[SkySanji]

Old Gaban > Kaido

Get old Gaban past Blackbeard first.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

That alongside other things

Shanks could do what he did. Did we forget how Old Gaban toyed with Luffy or how Kizaru fed Luffy ? Serious non mentally nerfed Kizaru mid diffs Luffy. That doesn't make him a god tier.
Midi diffing injured Loki doesn't make one a god tier either.
Post Wano G5 Luffy is bottom tier of low top tier.

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

Just saw another source say Gaban scars Imu

It’s so over the old gen is actually > yonko

Never want to see “hurr durr admirals only fight old men” ever again

Link the another source

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Link the another source

How do I link my dreams?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Shanks could do what he did. Did we forget how Old Gaban toyed with Luffy or how Kizaru fed Luffy ? Serious non mentally nerfed Kizaru mid diffs Luffy. That doesn't make him a god tier.
Midi diffing injured Loki doesn't make one a god tier either.
Post Wano G5 Luffy is bottom tier of low top tier.

This is Luffy at his strongest. He's not playing around like he was with Kizaru and Gaban. He's completely healthy and stronger than ever, yet Imu destroyed him.
And Imu would've done the same to Gaban if Oda never retconned his strength. But that's just how Oda's writing is nowadays

 

[Hamlette]

Oda's not really showing this supposed growing nerf that's inflicting Imu, though. He coughed blood a few times and that's it. Am I really meant to believe that an injured old Gaban can clash with Imu for a minute?
Even Kaido has the excuse that he has a problem where he takes attacks head on too much. Imu doesn't have that type of excuse, Oda just retconned his strength completely

I mean, it's stated and shown that he is negatively affected outside of MJ and can't remain beyond it's boundaries for too long, so yeah, it's a factor. Let's also not ignore the fact that Gaban is a more experienced fighter with a higher technical mastery of CoC. It's the same ability he was lecturing Luffy and the others about in the context of fighting these immortals, which includes Imu. The fact is, Imu isn't done. Luffy, and probably Loki too, will fight him again, and he'll probably still have the upper hand. This moment is inconsequential to his established power level. All it does is give respect to an old legend who just lost his arm this chapter and might lose his life in the next. Oda was never going to humiliate him with a piss poor performance.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Also what are the chances that Imu's wound here becomes a siginifcant factor in round 2 against Luffy and Loki
Gonna have to see what kinda of injury it is but story telling wise, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I mean, it's stated and shown that he is negatively affected outside of MJ and can't remain beyond it's boundaries for too long, so yeah, it's a factor. Let's also not ignore the fact that Gaban is a more experienced fighter with a higher technical mastery of CoC. It's the same ability he was lecturing Luffy and the others about in the context of fighting these immortals, which includes Imu. The fact is, Imu isn't done. Luffy, and probably Loki too, will fight him again, and he'll probably still have the upper hand. This moment is inconsequential to his established power level. All it does is give respect to an old legend who just lost his arm this chapter and might lose his life in the next. Oda was never going to humiliate him with a piss poor performance.

How can I have faith that he'll perform well against Luffy and Loki? Oda made him do poorly against someone weaker than both of them.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

This is Luffy at his strongest. He's not playing around like he was with Kizaru and Gaban. He's completely healthy and stronger than ever, yet Imu destroyed him.
And Imu would've done the same to Gaban if Oda never retconned his strength. But that's just how Oda's writing is nowadays

Again that’s you overrating Luffy. Luffy is not near the old legends strength. There was no retcon

 

[Luffy is the mc]

This is Luffy at his strongest. He's not playing around like he was with Kizaru and Gaban. He's completely healthy and stronger than ever, yet Imu destroyed him.
And Imu would've done the same to Gaban if Oda never retconned his strength. But that's just how Oda's writing is nowadays

He was at his strongest too vs Kizaru. What makes him stronger here lol?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He was at his strongest too vs Kizaru. What makes him stronger here lol?

He got to prepare by eating a lot of food and clearly wasn't holding back on Imu
With Kizaru he held back multiple times even when he had the chance to literally crush Kizaru in his arms

 

[Hamlette]

How can I have faith that he'll perform well against Luffy and Loki? Oda made him do poorly against someone weaker than both of them.

You can trust me. I knew exactly how well Gyaban was going to do this chapter, and I know how well Imu will do later in the arc. Just appreciate the short masterclass Gramps put on for us, because he's done fighting for the rest of the arc.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

How can I have faith that he'll perform well against Luffy and Loki? Oda made him do poorly against someone weaker than both of them.

Old Gaban just called Luffy weak. When Imu does it, it's because he's God tier. Maybe it is because Luffy is that weak.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

He got to prepare by eating a lot of food and clearly wasn't holding back on Imu
With Kizaru he held back multiple times even when he had the chance to literally crush Kizaru in his arms

Food doesn't make him stronger. It increases his stamina.
He didn't hold back against Kizaru, he was crying that he couldn't save Vegapunk and Kizaru actually fed him. If he grabs Imu here, he won't do anything different than what he did in Egghead.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Old Gaban just called Luffy weak. When Imu does it, it's because he's God tier. Maybe it is because Luffy is that weak.

This isn't Luffy's fault. He's shown that he's above even Kaido, let alone Old Gaban. This is on Oda, he shouldn't have kept writing the story after Punk Hazard. He should pass this series over to a better author