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Who did better against Imu ?


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you don't understand, if kaido didn't get stabbed by kiku he would have won vs g5
Kaido:



Yet his fans believe low diffing some high tier scrubs weakened Kaido to the point where he couldn't solo some rookie who unlocked his ACoC and awakening in the same arc lol. On the other hand, they brought up the panel when Akainu told Fujitora and Greenbull to not make excuses for what happened in Marijoa.
They're ready to make 1000 excuses for Rumor Man but when it comes to Admirals? "Nah, they're weak because of this and that"

Before fighting ACoC Luffy, Kaido's only "serious" injury was due to Ashura Zoro - nothing in comparison to what Loki and Gaban had to take before they fought the god tier of this verse.
 
I don’t even want to slander Goatban but these anti-Loki gang keeps latching onto anything 🤣

Gaban wasn’t even close to looking like a threat, and Imu was definitely focused on trying to kill Condom. Only reason why he got injured by a first hit.
I say this as both a Loki fan and a Gaban fan, but I still believe that Loki did better.

Gaban still performed very well against Imu, his Adv CoC which he used was also really impressive.

And him calling out Luffy was beautiful, overall Gaban was great in this chapter.

However he still got easily defeated at the end by Imu, lost an arm, and during the chapter he even talks about his body being in pain due to him being really old.

Now compare that to Loki who was fighting Imu for more than one chapter before Luffy arrived, Loki who is really young, has one of the most powerful devil fruits in the series, and while he may be injured, he is not defeated and out of the fight yet.

Also let's not forget than both Gaban and Shanks couldn't do anything to HK Harald, until Loki came in and finally defeated/killed him.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Imu: Who is thy captain?

Gaban: The "Pirate King"... Gol D. Roger!!!

*Mini Imu flashback. He's talking to the Five Elders.*

Imu: How detestable...!! Why is a "D" called the "Pirate King"?! Do not spread this name.

Five Elders: Understood.

*Back to the present*

Imu: I see... So he's the perpetrator who ushered these seas into the "Age of Piracy". Why does a remnant like you... defend "Straw Hat" Luffy?!
………..So it really seems like Imu had no interest in Roger at all, like Imu wasn’t even paying attention to him until he one day randomly read a newspaper. And then he was like “yeah just don’t talk about him.” LOL

Meanwhile that same Imu personally intervened to kill Xebec and watched Harald closely for YEARS.


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We need a immediate context thread that explains why is the man who beat Kaido tossed away like a filthy ass used condom packet by old Waban

Imu stabs Luffy twice, Luffy tossed away like trash by Gaban.

Meanwhile Loki eats multiple stabs and AdCoC attacks from Imu and is like:
 
So Kaido basically had the temu version of a "gauntlet".

Imu: Trashed post Wano Zoro and Sanji, then fought Loki, fought and trashed awakened Luffy and now defeated Gaban. Kaido faced mostly rookies or veterans without CoC.

:risisweat:

@Elder Lee Hung @Sentinel @kekaro @Kurozumi Wiwi
When Kaido gauntlet veteran lvl or rookies, Imu gauntlet top tiers. There are lvl to this :risisweat:
 
Kaido:



Yet his fans believe low diffing some high tier scrubs weakened Kaido to the point where he couldn't solo some rookie who unlocked his ACoC and awakening in the same arc lol. On the other hand, they brought up the panel when Akainu told Fujitora and Greenbull to not make excuses for what happened in Marijoa.
They're ready to make 1000 excuses for Rumor Man but when it comes to Admirals? "Nah, they're weak because of this and that"

Before fighting ACoC Luffy, Kaido's only "serious" injury was due to Ashura Zoro - nothing in comparison to what Loki and Gaban had to take before they fought the god tier of this verse.
I always said that if Kaido had to use a lot of energy and got wounded seriously by the scrubbards he can only blame himself. Kuzan would have insta freez diff
 
Bro you have to understand that outside the Admiral fandom, 6 years ago, people had Admirals at or slightly above YC1 level. People had Katakuri and Mingo above them. Now, they've started to look better than Yonkos apart from maybe Shanks and Primebeard and that's only because we haven't seen post TS Akainu yet who'll definitely be there.

From YC1 level to above Yonko level in a time period we've primarily seen THE YONKOS FIGHT is a BIG improvement
How are they looking better than Yonkos
I was never on the Admiral downplay team but post Wano really set it as Yonko > Admiral
 
………..So it really seems like Imu had no interest in Roger at all, like Imu wasn’t even paying attention to him until he one day randomly read a newspaper. And then he was like “yeah just don’t talk about him.” LOL

Meanwhile that same Imu personally intervened to kill Xebec and watched Harald closely for YEARS.


@Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Loki D. Terror @park_min young @Dragon777 @comrade @TheD. @Djordje @Fujishiro
Dora the Explorer truly lives up his "hype" :gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:

Remember when Roger stans tried to argue he was very close to Imu? It turns out, Imu didn't even have him on his radar even when he was clearly mentioned to Imu lmfaoo.
 
So Kaido basically had the temu version of a "gauntlet".

Imu: Trashed post Wano Zoro and Sanji, then fought Loki, fought and trashed awakened Luffy and now defeated Gaban. Kaido faced mostly rookies or veterans without CoC.

:risisweat:

@Elder Lee Hung @Sentinel @kekaro @Kurozumi Wiwi
Keep in mind Kaido has a mythical zoan that amps his endurance, durability and stamina while Imu is getting leukemia just from being on the surface
 
I always said that if Kaido had to use a lot of energy and got wounded seriously by the scrubbards he can only blame himself. Kuzan would have insta freez diff
Kuzan wrecked entire Tottoland with no injuries, negged Cracker like some collateral.
A casual Greenbull was easily handling them all and he sustained NO injuries whatsoever.

If Kaido is being a dumbass to try tanking every attack, other characters shouldn't be blamed for his carelessness.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Dora the Explorer truly lives up his "hype" :gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:

Remember when Roger stans tried to argue he was very close to Imu? It turns out, Imu didn't even have him on his radar even when he was clearly mentioned to Imu lmfaoo.
I remember @sanjikun telling me Imu cared just as much about Roger and Whitebeard as he did about Xebec and Harald
:Kek_Ki::Kek_Ki::Kek_Ki:

In reality Imu seems like he didn’t even know who Roger was when Roger became the pirate king, he was like “wait what? Who is this guy and why is he the pirate king?” LOL

Same Imu cared HEAVILY about both Xebec and Harald and personally intervened in their lives, treating Roger like an after thought and seemingly didn’t even know who Roger was other than him simply being another D. Imu’s solution: “just don’t talk about him”
:Ou_Lol::Ou_Lol::Ou_Lol:
 
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