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Who did better against Imu ?


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Also, I have to call bullshit about this whole thing with Roger. He didn't challenge Imu because he wasn't the chosen one, he didn't because he was a lazy skirt-chaser.

So, we know one year before the God Valley Incident, (39 years from where we are now), the Roger Pirates found Lodestar. However, it was only when he discovered he had an incurable illness (which would be 28 years from now) that he set out for Laugh Tale.

Okay, so that is ELEVEN years Roger had between then. So, all this talk of him being too late was purely because he didn't do anything until he was going to die in a few years. He could have taken that role but apparently he was content just drinking and chasing girls. Fate and destiny have nothing to do with this.
There was no Poseidon during his time
 
Also, I have to call bullshit about this whole thing with Roger. He didn't challenge Imu because he wasn't the chosen one, he didn't because he was a lazy skirt-chaser.

So, we know one year before the God Valley Incident, (39 years from where we are now), the Roger Pirates found Lodestar. However, it was only when he discovered he had an incurable illness (which would be 28 years from now) that he set out for Laugh Tale.

Okay, so that is ELEVEN years Roger had between then. So, all this talk of him being too late was purely because he didn't do anything until he was going to die in a few years. He could have taken that role but apparently he was content just drinking and chasing girls. Fate and destiny have nothing to do with this.
He created path for new Generation+possible New Hero with his son
 
Why did his stronger finisher not damage Imu at all? We see the barrage, doesn’t look like it could go through Imu’s shield at all.

Gaban just clipped him once when Imu was distracted by trying to Stigma Luffy. Imu wasn’t able to fully block the first hit because he was ignoring Gaban.
We never see the after effect of the attack on Imu. Just a close up of Imu doing everything he can to block it mid attack

Imu couldn’t fully block it because he couldn’t fully block it
 
So are you ready to admit Old Gaban > overfed Elbaf luffy who think he can't image to lose > Kaido ?
Luffy without BG can't win against Kaido for now. But outside of stamina/endurance , old gen being = Kaido is possible.

By feats gaban is more impressive but by portrayal his peer old ray admitted he can't beat BB who I place on same tier as Kaido for now.
 
Windowlicker argued those are cutting slashes from his axes

You know the things we see he didn't even fire yet when we turn to the next page and he does there

Whats with zoro fans not able to read the manga man its just pictures @Fujishiro :josad:
Tbf, those two slashes that cut the tree came from axes.

That Haki blast that pierced Imcel through his guard is not tho.

Insane feat.
 
Here's the thing. Unless there is an actual God of Fate who created an actual prophecy, then all this talk of fate and destiny in One Piece is really in-story conjecture.

Because who said "The Dawn Will Come"? If there is no actual proof of a proverbial Norn or Moirae figure, it's people simply *hoping* for such things.
Seeing how toki exists, there very likely is someone who was able to manipulate all this
 
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