Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1190 : Those who are rejoiced at Death

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Bro it is self-awareness, at least learn English you dumb retard.
And miss me with this bullshit, you are irrelevant to me, but every time Scopper Gaban, not even Sanji, cuz that retard is still trash and a fodder, gets one feat, you mention how much better it is than Mihawk, how Zoro will not get there bla bla.

You are literally insecure as fuck, and can’t even celebrate one good feat from Scopper Gaban without sucking Zoro’s dick.
Want me to show receipts?
Your post started as a comparison between Gaban, Whitebeard and Roger. Nothing in that comparison involved Zoro or Sanji:

THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL ANYONE CAN CONVINCE ME PRIME WHITEBEARD IS ABOVE PRIME GABAN
No fucking way
And Roger is not even 0.1% stronger than Rayleigh and Gaban.
At best Roger = Rayleigh and Gaban and at worst Rayleigh and Gaban > Roger.
Zoro > Luffy is already fax
Maybe in future Sanji will surpass Luffy too
Tho Oda has portrayed Sanji like a piece of shit the entire series so idk
Kekaro then said Mihawk had not defeated a named character besides East Blue Zoro. Instead of defending Mihawk’s record, you changed the subject to Zoro’s feats and how his opponents supposedly scale over Sanji:

But Zoro has already negged a character who low diffs current Sanji
One shotted Lucci too who also mid diffs current Sanji
So you turned a Gaban comparison into Zoro praise and Sanji slander, then turned a discussion about Mihawk’s record into Zoro praise and Sanji slander.

Bro it is self-awareness, at least learn English you dumb retard.
Who gives a donkey shit about where Sommers hype came from
@soupongo is literally treating you like a Elementary school teacher treating his students and breaking it down sentence by sentence.
Little Sanji milk drinking kid, let Sensei Shishio explain to you
It is okay both Bommers and Bummerham are trash as individuals
But after powers Imu provided as INDIVIDUAL fighter, with stats like Physical Strength, Haki, Attack Power and DC Sommers is a top tier.
While Killingham has done nothing in manga to prove as INDIVIDUAL fighter he is a top tier.
But Zaza is a God Tier and he can summon Zaza so that equals his importants.
My Elementary school kid, is this explanation clear enough or should I break down further for you?
“An elementary-school teacher.”

“The powers Imu provided him.”

“Importance.”
 

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This I am unsure about. Both Momo and Luffy himself made it clear that he was quite tired.

But it's up to the reader I suppose.

Agreed.

True.

Not unreasonable. That stamina nerf hits hard.
At this point, I feel Luffy will reach Roger/Shanks' level around Laugh Tale, then, once the treasure is found and the Final War starts, Luffy will surpass them.

IMO Luffy's biggest power-up will come from training with Shanks.
 
Amazing stuff from Gaban. Showed that even in old age, his haki prowess and axe swings are not to messed with. 8000 tribe leaders and Divine Gate were splendid. Giving Luffy a wakeup call after giving Zoro and Sanji advice too, Gaban's doing good all around.

Nice to see everyone expecting so much of Luffy. He still has ways to go before he can bring down Imu but now's the time to get serious about that as a goal.
 
He's already started to do it.
Germa's awakening was a bigger boost than you guys think, Sanji is now basically a superhuman with crazy durability and among the fastest in the verse.
And soon he will get AdCoC to deal with Ultra Killingham.
It's going to happen, and it's easier to accept it already. Just like the Admirals bros are hurting themself, still trying to deny that Greenbull will very likely taste Sanji's flaming shoe in the mounth pretty soon.
:Gaban_Smug::cryabit:
I mean when Sanji shows feats on Zoros level I will surely accept. I am saying so far in manga he has hovered on low to no diff..EL being mid diff.

But notice how I give Gaban his flowers as soon as he showed good feats and not once downplayed him..I dare you find a single post of mine after he showed feats, calling him trash.

I just dont like handouts.
When Oda does ass pull and makes him Zoro level i would be the first to accept it.
 
Divine Gate is a particularly cool name. Seems to coincide with Roger's Divine Departure.

I wonder if Rayleigh has a Divine attack to complete the trio? Gaban with Divine Gate, Roger with Departure, maybe Ray might have Divine Path/Journey as his version ( Enter through Gate -> Journey->Depart).
Yeah, that is a good point. Guess those are their reliable haki-focused attacks. Both really cool too.

I think Rayleigh would or he'd have one based around hell to fit with his moniker. I hope we get the chance to see it if he does.
 
this is actually true, tbh, the M3 has consistently had this gap between the members

goofy low diffs Zoro who low diffs Sanji
Not consistent at all
Zoro was stronger all the way until Skypea
EL Luffy pulled slightly ahead
Thriller Baek Zoro was stronger again
Entire poat time skip before AcoA he was stronger
Before AcoC he was stronger
Currently liffy is maybe stronger but doesn't look like it

But Sanji was low no diff for Zoro literally entire Manga
 
I mean when Sanji shows feats on Zoros level I will surely accept. I am saying so far in manga he has hovered on low to no diff..EL being mid diff.

But notice how I give Gaban his flowers as soon as he showed good feats and not once downplayed him..I dare you find a single post of mine after he showed feats, calling him trash.

I just dont like handouts.
When Oda does ass pull and makes him Zoro level i would be the first to accept it.
I think you'll have to wait very little, just few other chapters until he will unlock AdCoC and will defeat Ultra Killingham + Zaza in the same time Zoro will defeat Sommers.
 
Not consistent at all
Zoro was stronger all the way until Skypea
EL Luffy pulled slightly ahead
Thriller Baek Zoro was stronger again
Entire poat time skip before AcoA he was stronger
Before AcoC he was stronger
Currently liffy is maybe stronger but doesn't look like it

But Sanji was low no diff for Zoro literally entire Manga
luffy has more AP, DC, lethality, better defense, better speed, more mobility, better cqc, better swordmanship in TB with shadow luffy, a stronger will, more endurance, better durability, better sensory abilities, better intuition, combat intelligence, a better style, stronger range attacks, a more diverse set of abilities, a better range of motion, more impactful attacks, better momentum in battles, less plot armor, etc

idk how zoro is even close, even sanji is better stat wise but sanji is kinda nerfed by having two roles as a chef and combatant

i think zoro has extreme high potential tho, excited for if he can leverage it against his first yonko fight when he will fight Mihawk
 
At this point, I feel Luffy will reach Roger/Shanks' level around Laugh Tale, then, once the treasure is found and the Final War starts, Luffy will surpass them.

IMO Luffy's biggest power-up will come from training with Shanks.
The biggest power up Luffy could get is if the time difference in Elbaph somehow ages him as soon as they leave the island. 10-20 years older Luffy, physically and mentally, would beat the crap out of current Luffy.

Most SHP would benefit loads if so only the physical body matures. Same as Momonosuke. Jinbei would decline the most but that just further cements gap between himself and Sanji in a natural way, putting Jinbei closer to Franky, Robin and Brooke.

Also, this could explain why Gaban never tried to save Ace or go to Wano. He would die if he ever left Elbaph.
 
Divine Gate is a particularly cool name. Seems to coincide with Roger's Divine Departure.

I wonder if Rayleigh has a Divine attack to complete the trio? Gaban with Divine Gate, Roger with Departure, maybe Ray might have Divine Path/Journey as his version ( Enter through Gate -> Journey->Depart).
Cool theory.
Too bad Rayleigh ultimate move will probably remain this shit, 'cause I think his role in the story finished after saving Boa from Teach.
 
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