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The state of the One Piece fanbase IS an interesting political subject. Especially when we talk about how the conditions of reading and consuming the medium influence the appreciation of such medium and in our case a hatefull part of the fanbase and how One Piece/fandom youtubers have a material interest to make money and therefore to capitalize on these conflictual takes thus reenforcing the potential toxicity within said fandom
Which can be directly associated to the rise of not only bad critics, but conservatism in pop culture as conflictuality within the framework of the critic of entertainment usually aligns with a reactionnary behavior regarding such products.
This is literally what I denounce on this forum....
Blax is completely right to talk about how bad it is for the youtubers to be conflictual, negative, reactionnary in front of the story and insults their audience. It's a social and therere political subject
Which can be directly associated to the rise of not only bad critics, but conservatism in pop culture as conflictuality within the framework of the critic of entertainment usually aligns with a reactionnary behavior regarding such products.
This is literally what I denounce on this forum....
Blax is completely right to talk about how bad it is for the youtubers to be conflictual, negative, reactionnary in front of the story and insults their audience. It's a social and therere political subject
The state of the One Piece fanbase IS an interesting political subject. Especially when we talk about how the conditions of reading and consuming the medium influence the appreciation of such medium and in our case a hatefull part of the fanbase and how One Piece/fandom youtubers have a material interest to make money and therefore to capitalize on these conflictual takes thus reenforcing the potential toxicity within said fandom
Which can be directly associated to the rise of not only bad critics, but conservatism in pop culture as conflictuality within the framework of the critic of entertainment usually aligns with a reactionnary behavior regarding such products.
This is literally what I denounce on this forum....
Blax is completely right to talk about how bad it is for the youtubers to be conflictual, negative, reactionnary in front of the story and insults their audience. It's a social and therere political subject
Which can be directly associated to the rise of not only bad critics, but conservatism in pop culture as conflictuality within the framework of the critic of entertainment usually aligns with a reactionnary behavior regarding such products.
This is literally what I denounce on this forum....
Blax is completely right to talk about how bad it is for the youtubers to be conflictual, negative, reactionnary in front of the story and insults their audience. It's a social and therere political subject
Seems like the US is slowly waking up:
I think the phenomenon is more complex. We have here is the logical radicalization of the left all over the globe, against not just the genocide in Gaza, but the very concrete material impact of imperialism and capitalism on their survival.
Perhaps I'm wrong to throw the wet towel of fascism over the west. The situation is could be worst, there are still ways to fight and frankly, modern fascism is more of a spectrum than a complete and finished system. The point of no return has yet to be crossed.
We are close though : Trump, Meloni, Milei, Netanyahou.. They all have the power and the desire to survive this crisis. Bringing with them more panic and radical politics. Be ware.
But the situation is set: Capitalism enters the final stage of its biggest crisis yet, China begins a new golden age, the western bourgoisie is panicking, the AI bubble is bursting, the working class faces more precarity, more violence, more environmental carnage, wars are looming.
The world splits up. As the middle class implodes, the working class gets bigger. A left side, radicalized by the violence of the bourgeoisie and a reactionnary side, tricked by the panic of these capitalists. As the world radicalizes, defending the status co becomes unacceptable. Families splits, communities strives and the earth turns red.
I think the phenomenon is more complex. We have here is the logical radicalization of the left all over the globe, against not just the genocide in Gaza, but the very concrete material impact of imperialism and capitalism on their survival.
Perhaps I'm wrong to throw the wet towel of fascism over the west. The situation is could be worst, there are still ways to fight and frankly, modern fascism is more of a spectrum than a complete and finished system. The point of no return has yet to be crossed.
We are close though : Trump, Meloni, Milei, Netanyahou.. They all have the power and the desire to survive this crisis. Bringing with them more panic and radical politics. Be ware.
But the situation is set: Capitalism enters the final stage of its biggest crisis yet, China begins a new golden age, the western bourgoisie is panicking, the AI bubble is bursting, the working class faces more precarity, more violence, more environmental carnage, wars are looming.
The world splits up. As the middle class implodes, the working class gets bigger. A left side, radicalized by the violence of the bourgeoisie and a reactionnary side, tricked by the panic of these capitalists. As the world radicalizes, defending the status co becomes unacceptable. Families splits, communities strives and the earth turns red.
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Gotta wonder how many people have truly died from these right wing terrorists gutting domestic and foreign aid programs on top of safety regulations.
More than died on 9/11, many more.
“I said the cuts DOGE made to USAID are potentially a death sentence for an estimated 4.5 million children around the world,” Khanna wrote in a Substack post. “It comes straight from the first comprehensive analysis of its kind into what American foreign aid actually does,” he added, referring to the 2025 study.
https://futurism.com/future-society/elon-musk-list-people-killed-children
Call em what they are, they're the real terrorists.
You are not free until everyone is free. In a global system like our planet, what impacts others will impact you as well, no matter if they are far away or not. Helping countries our country contributed (and are still contributing to destroy) is not only good, it is necessary for your own interests.
The rise of poverty and insecurity in those country creates more people in need to flee, which create more reason for reactionnaries to build frontier and therefore which help the ruling class and elite to trick you more into thinking that it is in your interest to reject others and help them, thus reenforcing their power over you both financially (the ruling class in not with you) and socially.
Therefore it in your own interest to help the world. Help one, help everyone.
The rise of poverty and insecurity in those country creates more people in need to flee, which create more reason for reactionnaries to build frontier and therefore which help the ruling class and elite to trick you more into thinking that it is in your interest to reject others and help them, thus reenforcing their power over you both financially (the ruling class in not with you) and socially.
Therefore it in your own interest to help the world. Help one, help everyone.
Each country should first fix the problems in their country before reaching out.
You should reach out in urgent times of need like big earthquakes,tsunamis and basically natural catastrophes,but not on daily basis...
A country should stand in its own feet. If it can't it is time for major changes.
There is nothing reactioniory about not wanting massive influx of outsiders.
And yes ,the natives do suffer. When immigrants who are legal or illegal come into the country and immediately get offered benefits and at the same time because of the said benefits and beacuse they are conditioned to a worse level of living they demand less living wage than the natives; They alonly help the richer get richer..Both the right and the left turn a blind eye to the poor mass for their own benefit...
And that's not all..
On one hand you want to reduce the alimentation,which would be easier to achieve with the reduced population of Europe and on the other hand you accept massive amounts of foreigners that shouldn't exist..
Let alone the clash of different set of cultures...
To not be misinterpreted for my last remark ,every country should have reduced population.
Less people,less amounts to feed and keep hydrates. Less mass production and use of non-renewable energies...
Nigeria (Just happened to look it up a few days ago hence why I use this country as an example.) in the census of 2006 had around 100 million less people than today...(140m to 242m)
The augmentation of population is massive even if the official sensus back then didn't account for all the people..
Do you realise how many resources are actually needed for all these people? And make that for all the augmented countries of africa and south east Asia .
What is the solution ?To let all of them travel Europe and North America ? The humanitarian aid that is given is also in majority pocketed by the local warlords and NGO..
The divorcée of Bezos has supposedly spent 26 billion in aid.. All that amount of money and it hasn't been really made a difference,because the aid doesn't actually change the status quo of the country and its infrastructure.. The mindset doesn't change..
Spain has helped immensely Morocco and along with the EU's help want to improve Morocco's infrastructure(EU of course would get benefits from.that) ... And what was the thank you from the Moroccans when Spain wanted to make pacts with Algeria? "Invade" a city in a day with almost as many people as the native population of the city. Just to send a message...
Why exactly then should Countries like Spain make grand gestures when the other side has no gratitude?
Not all countries and people can see eye to eye and shouldn't force help ,just to think on your head that you are magnanimous. Sometimes enough is enough.
I didn't even touch the subject of Justice..
Too much written already when I know we won't really agree on 99,9% of stuff. Just waste of time really..
You should reach out in urgent times of need like big earthquakes,tsunamis and basically natural catastrophes,but not on daily basis...
A country should stand in its own feet. If it can't it is time for major changes.
There is nothing reactioniory about not wanting massive influx of outsiders.
And yes ,the natives do suffer. When immigrants who are legal or illegal come into the country and immediately get offered benefits and at the same time because of the said benefits and beacuse they are conditioned to a worse level of living they demand less living wage than the natives; They alonly help the richer get richer..Both the right and the left turn a blind eye to the poor mass for their own benefit...
And that's not all..
On one hand you want to reduce the alimentation,which would be easier to achieve with the reduced population of Europe and on the other hand you accept massive amounts of foreigners that shouldn't exist..
Let alone the clash of different set of cultures...
To not be misinterpreted for my last remark ,every country should have reduced population.
Less people,less amounts to feed and keep hydrates. Less mass production and use of non-renewable energies...
Nigeria (Just happened to look it up a few days ago hence why I use this country as an example.) in the census of 2006 had around 100 million less people than today...(140m to 242m)
The augmentation of population is massive even if the official sensus back then didn't account for all the people..
Do you realise how many resources are actually needed for all these people? And make that for all the augmented countries of africa and south east Asia .
What is the solution ?To let all of them travel Europe and North America ? The humanitarian aid that is given is also in majority pocketed by the local warlords and NGO..
The divorcée of Bezos has supposedly spent 26 billion in aid.. All that amount of money and it hasn't been really made a difference,because the aid doesn't actually change the status quo of the country and its infrastructure.. The mindset doesn't change..
Spain has helped immensely Morocco and along with the EU's help want to improve Morocco's infrastructure(EU of course would get benefits from.that) ... And what was the thank you from the Moroccans when Spain wanted to make pacts with Algeria? "Invade" a city in a day with almost as many people as the native population of the city. Just to send a message...
Why exactly then should Countries like Spain make grand gestures when the other side has no gratitude?
Not all countries and people can see eye to eye and shouldn't force help ,just to think on your head that you are magnanimous. Sometimes enough is enough.
I didn't even touch the subject of Justice..
Too much written already when I know we won't really agree on 99,9% of stuff. Just waste of time really..
Mods please @Uncle Van @AL sama there's no way that pfp is allowed, is there?
I understand why you might think that would be the good idea but we believe that we wil never able to create a personal peace as long as we live in a conflictual world. What impact them, actually impacts you too. It's not them outside and you inside, it is a system under which you are both suffering differently. This is why we say "you are not free until everyone is free". As we understand that only together will we be able to fight the system that oppresses us all. We can't "help ourselves" if we don't understand that we are not alone in control.
We believe there is. As the very essence of reactionarism is to protect irrationnaly a model of society that is believed to be threatened. (in this case, by influx of outsiders). When we know, on the left, that said influx is actually one of the reasons for the development and growth of societies.
Not all the left. Perhaps are you looking at liberal who are indeed not caring. But the left that I talked about previously, the rising radical left, sees things differently. They ARE the childrens and grand childrens of these proletarians and migrants. They are now the ones asking for equality and as such, I believe we should help them to help ourselves.
Why do you think culture should clash?
And yet, we still have enough ressources on earth for everyone at the moment. The problem isn't the scarity of ressources.. rather than its artificial scarity and distribution.
Yes. I believe there are no rationnal reasons to stop people from moving around. I'm against frontiers all together. And we have the capacity to welcome them and integrate them into our societies.
The problem has never been the material ressources. It's a racial and capitalist problem. The problem has always been the need to keep a marginalized group of people under the threadshold of poverty in order to maintain a system of exploitation of all. The only interest of the bourgeoisie is to keep that system, to sustain their capitals. But we, as a society, will always benefit from the integration and striving of people of different origins. Culturally, socially, economically, politically. We think the integration of alterity is fundamental for the survival of ALL big collectives.
It is in Morocco's interests for the imperial center that is Europe to develop a strict far right politic. It's a country directly working in tandem with the US (another imperial center) and Israel in order to maintain the imperial hegemony on the arab world and Sahara. (It is a colonizing country).
As french marxist are detailing it very well today : Morroco - in tandem with Israel and the US - used people in high humanitarian needs AS TOOLS to scare the working class of the imperial center. Spain, Italy, Germany, but mostly FRANCE that is currently in the process of a presidential election that could completely reshape the structure of the imperial center of Europe AGAINST the interest of Trump and Netanyahou and therefore AGAINST the interest of the reactionnary govenment of Morocco on the sahara desert.
If France falls to the left, Netanyahou will have a lot more problem to uphold his genocidal and colonial politics. The same way, Trump will potentially lose a precious ally within Nato and will lose a big grip on Europe which will probably seal the box of his downfall against China. We believe the world is reshaping itself toward a different pole : China. The US are done and the only thing that could stop this change is to create a reactionary/fascist pull in Europe, especially in France. LIke I said, the left is rising and it is not a good idea to side with people playing with your fear.
We have a project, a model of society around the collective. It is scary, yes, it might be risky, also. But what are proposing people like Trump, is only death and destruction. The world is boiling, countries are panicking.
We think that it is in the interest of all to be the best version of ourselves and create the path toward a world without frontiers, without class, without states.
We are not free until everyone is free.
We believe there is. As the very essence of reactionarism is to protect irrationnaly a model of society that is believed to be threatened. (in this case, by influx of outsiders). When we know, on the left, that said influx is actually one of the reasons for the development and growth of societies.
Not all the left. Perhaps are you looking at liberal who are indeed not caring. But the left that I talked about previously, the rising radical left, sees things differently. They ARE the childrens and grand childrens of these proletarians and migrants. They are now the ones asking for equality and as such, I believe we should help them to help ourselves.
Why do you think culture should clash?
And yet, we still have enough ressources on earth for everyone at the moment. The problem isn't the scarity of ressources.. rather than its artificial scarity and distribution.
Yes. I believe there are no rationnal reasons to stop people from moving around. I'm against frontiers all together. And we have the capacity to welcome them and integrate them into our societies.
The problem has never been the material ressources. It's a racial and capitalist problem. The problem has always been the need to keep a marginalized group of people under the threadshold of poverty in order to maintain a system of exploitation of all. The only interest of the bourgeoisie is to keep that system, to sustain their capitals. But we, as a society, will always benefit from the integration and striving of people of different origins. Culturally, socially, economically, politically. We think the integration of alterity is fundamental for the survival of ALL big collectives.
It is in Morocco's interests for the imperial center that is Europe to develop a strict far right politic. It's a country directly working in tandem with the US (another imperial center) and Israel in order to maintain the imperial hegemony on the arab world and Sahara. (It is a colonizing country).
As french marxist are detailing it very well today : Morroco - in tandem with Israel and the US - used people in high humanitarian needs AS TOOLS to scare the working class of the imperial center. Spain, Italy, Germany, but mostly FRANCE that is currently in the process of a presidential election that could completely reshape the structure of the imperial center of Europe AGAINST the interest of Trump and Netanyahou and therefore AGAINST the interest of the reactionnary govenment of Morocco on the sahara desert.
If France falls to the left, Netanyahou will have a lot more problem to uphold his genocidal and colonial politics. The same way, Trump will potentially lose a precious ally within Nato and will lose a big grip on Europe which will probably seal the box of his downfall against China. We believe the world is reshaping itself toward a different pole : China. The US are done and the only thing that could stop this change is to create a reactionary/fascist pull in Europe, especially in France. LIke I said, the left is rising and it is not a good idea to side with people playing with your fear.
We have a project, a model of society around the collective. It is scary, yes, it might be risky, also. But what are proposing people like Trump, is only death and destruction. The world is boiling, countries are panicking.
We think that it is in the interest of all to be the best version of ourselves and create the path toward a world without frontiers, without class, without states.
We are not free until everyone is free.
When I talk about beliefs and politics, I'm talking about marxists, intersectionnalists, anti-imperialist, communist and anarchist from the marginalities and more. And most often materialist revolutionnaries.
Usually, most of the "we" I use is about all of the above.
I don't want to tell you what to believe anymore. I want to give you enough informations about the way people like me reason in order for you to have the keys of comprehension if you need them one day. So I'll now tell you how "we believe" the world works instead of telling you "you do not understand", "you are ignorant", "you don't have the keys" etc..." All these ways of talking are part of the past for me here now (even though I might still slip up, I'm not perfect.
I'll still say "the world works like that", but it will always be in the context of what "we" or "I" believe specifically.
Now when I talk about how "we" should help others to help ourselves, I'm talking about the collective. The collective being the global human society on planet earth.
No, they do to. I'm just varying the usage in order to avoid the repetition of the "we".
Usually, most of the "we" I use is about all of the above.
I don't want to tell you what to believe anymore. I want to give you enough informations about the way people like me reason in order for you to have the keys of comprehension if you need them one day. So I'll now tell you how "we believe" the world works instead of telling you "you do not understand", "you are ignorant", "you don't have the keys" etc..." All these ways of talking are part of the past for me here now (even though I might still slip up, I'm not perfect.
I'll still say "the world works like that", but it will always be in the context of what "we" or "I" believe specifically.
Now when I talk about how "we" should help others to help ourselves, I'm talking about the collective. The collective being the global human society on planet earth.
No, they do to. I'm just varying the usage in order to avoid the repetition of the "we".
This is the thing that's crazy
Since modern religion is so in-bed with this sex trafficking, these people are EVERYWHERE. No wonder this country normalized raping baby cock through circumcision, when you could just wash the fucking penis.
People will talk about Hollywood or DC, but, those rural towns, that will just beat kids into submission the moment they try to fight back?
That's where the most rape cover ups occur. We at least hear about the international stuff like Epstein and Hollywood and Trump.
These small towns, where one pastor can spend their entire life raping kids, and retire and die peacefully in their own homes, after destroying the home lives of how many kids?
The most invisible children on the planet.
Only reason this came out is because the kid making the article is from a wealthy area, and the school is wealthy enough to fight back against the threats from the Epstein Class.
If it's a poor kid, from a poor town? Persona non grata