Role Madness Jojo's Bizzare Adventure Mafia

[85.2 FM - Portal Radio]

Townies can't really bypass location limits. So now I'm guessing you can't as well. I guess everyone gonna start dying at the end of the game then

I have something that can, though?

 

[MUUGEN]

@RKO where did you go?

 

[85.2 FM - Portal Radio]

Tired, fuck,,.

 

[Udell]

I have something that can, though?

Well I gained an ability myself that allow me to do so this DP hence the reason why I said people will probably start dying more later in the game because I still have a locked ability that I can't see.

 

[Udell]

@RKO where did you go?

I heard him say he was going to tunnel me or something to that affect and I already got a few grey hairs waiting for this smh. Professional staller.

 

[York]

I barely remember this game

I forgot about this game. You fucking GOT me in that one man. Infiltrated my inner fucking circle and got me to expel Mango...

 

[York]

exactly, meta reads is basically angleshooting which is not even allowed in mafia lol

oh come off it Muugen, as if you've never meta read before. You just say whatever suits your agenda at any given time, no integrity

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I forgot about this game. You fucking GOT me in that one man. Infiltrated my inner fucking circle and got me to expel Mango...

Scumloaded will do what he must.

No hard feelings

 

[DeVision]

Actually let's try it this way.

@Udell @York @Mr. Reloaded @DeVision & @Gianfi

Y'all give me your reads on each other.

I want to the @85.2 FM - Portal Radio and @brett2flyy in the party too.

Also for funsies, we'll send @Sallucion an invite to give reads on each player listed in this post too.

Yeah. I know how it looks. Here's my opinions up to this point. I have a free weekend from now on, and should be able to participate more.


Udell: Lean town. I don't agree with everything he's done, but I get more of a genuine solving/trying-to-work-things-out vibe from him than an agenda-driven one. I want to see how he reacts to the current wagons before hard-clearing him though.

York: Null for me currently. I don't have a strong enough read either way, and that's partly the problem. I need more from him before I can comfortably put him in either camp.

Reloaded: This is one of my bigger concerns. I haven't seen enough from him to move him out of my scum pool, and he's been brought up by multiple people independently. I'd like him to actually explain his reads/progression rather than just respond to pressure.

Gianfi: Also fairly null. I don't have a strong town indication from him yet, but I also don't have enough to confidently call him scum. I'd like to hear where his actual independent reads are rather than just where he agrees/disagrees with other people.

My strongest suspicion out of this group is Reloaded. Udell is probably the one I'm most comfortable putting above the others for now, while York/Gianfi need more content.

 

[Naomi]

Anyhow.

Air Supplena Island:
Worst

Cairo:
Nibel

Morioh:
Ratchet, Naomi, Flower, RKO, Zemmi

Where did everyone else go?

did you guys rng it? to appear in the same area as me?

 

[The Orca]

No, it doesn't say my jail bypasses location. I don't know if Melkor was in my location, he was just the target I thought was best.

My passive that let's me see who targets me I believe does work through locations though.

Convenient isn't it

Yes i can target ppl regardless of their location



Nah i won't, i'll tell you why i targeted Ratchet though....his threadplay is scummy as fk, good ofc cuz he has his way with words but he's obviously scum

Agreed on Ratchet

This wouldn’t work anyway since my actions always find their target.

Now you have a strongman?

I still wanna kill the guy who survived my kill because he sounds like a GF esque big fish, but if Worst is so dodgy I‘d vote him, too.

Sounds like your kill failed because you shot Ratchet and he isn't in your location

nobody follows me anyway i learned how to cope with that

Got some pointers

If RKO really flips scum just nuke Worst because it feels like he‘s trying to give him an excuse why he lived.

Why would anyone do that, Especially given someone said Worst loves to bus

So if Flower cannot be redirected then her kill shot went RKO and not to Ratchet. It sounds like Flower has a really powerful character at this point. Then again it kind of make sense that she can't be redirected since Flower cannot bypass location limits at least.

Looking at my own character I gained a new ability as the DP start and I noticed the same thing with RipCal because he had a locked ability. I only had one ability to start with, I'm going to have to go back see what Flower claimed in D1 in regards to what she can do.

I'm a little concerned how some of you were so strong N1 when I only gained an ability to bypass location at the start of DP2.

Although looking at Ratchet's read I can see why people found him scummy.

Tarot cards?

Only thing I get is information on which location certain player is. I tracked RKO last night and he is on same island as Flower. Thought I would mention it.

If Flower flips mafia ever, scum may have a tracker

Manipulation abilities mostly and almost all of them bypass locations and stuff



I have valid reasons to not share it ( one of them is bc i need to be able to use it again and i won't be able to if i claim ) i know it's whack shit but that's all i can do about it

Ghis follows past Worst games i believe

Ratchet's reasons for scum reading you are exactly my reasons for scum reading you when i see the pattern, but this is clearly not that case and he can do much better than that that's why i targeted him to begin with

I too have no idea what Ratchet is seeing with Melkor this game. Isn't making sense

i do wonder if indie kills are considered faction kills or regular kills

fuji probably can't answer anyway since that would confirm existence of such an indie

Same reason Flower can't know what limitations Worst can actually bypass lol

Okay, now about the whole Ratchet/Worst drama.

1. I hate Worst's timing. Voting and pushing right after Orca made the case makes this a bitch to read.

2. Nobody should ever bother with any mech Worst pushes until he dies, and you can match his claim with his flip.

He will use fake mech to amplify his pushes and will disguise real mech within a huge pile of bullshit.


Read the player, not the mech.

I too thought about the timing, but it seems a bit convoluted, so I think most of Worst's claims are legit in some manner

@The Orca i thought i had quoted your post but i think i was the first person to call out rat being scum last cycle, atm would be a wasted push, maybe you me udell and worst be the only ones on it.

his defense on flower felt forced, disingenuous compared to his reaction of bittersweet and his previous thoughts on the way flower plays.

the saving grace for flower being town would be rat being scum and him using defending her as a way to easily pocket her.

if scum who would be his mates?

Flower and Polar would be the obvious connections. I'll take a look though

I clarified with Fuji that a game removal would qualify as harmful and I dodge the first harmful action on me.

adding more to your role lmao

My passive also says my actions always find their targets. That isn’t just redirect immunity, it’s straight up not possible to move my actions elsewhere.

Passive immunities don’t count as limitations.

Source: The host.

Fuji wouldn't have answered this because its something you don't know and you couldn't ask a question specific enough to be answered given the general thought of "limitations". There was a whole issue with you no longer getting info you shouldn't have based on questions to the host. If your role doesn't say limitations, Fuji isn't telling you about it

Source: Host

So unless I was blocked RKO, a low poster that’s only getting protected if he’s scum, just straight up tanked a kill.

Then Flower needs to play better. Why is it you guys believe Ratchet over Worst anyway? If you're not sure then pressure DeVision, Melkor and others who jump on him. I am notice convinced that scum would all gang up on Ratchet when all he did was lead wagons on indies and a dead townie.

Ratchet's flip gives me more info than Worst tbh.

This

Can anyone recall ratchet defending Flower because I know she has been town reading anyone who defended her. Too lazy to shift through all her post.


Did you ever care? lmao

He did but maybe not super directly. Well maybe only a little super directly

It's more related to their play styles I still need to read back Ratchet's post before I go firm because I admit I haven't really read them and only skimmed them.

I don't think I've said I wanted to lynch either though and only implied if I had to choose one to believe it would be Ratchet over Worst atm. Because even when Worst is town you can't believe him.

Why though

No you didn't, you voted Reloaded and said you think he is scum. I don't think you elaborate as to why.

So if a redirect is sent your way rather than saying Flower visit you it would say Flower and Worst visit you? I am trying to understand here because it don't sound like Worst visit you at all and from what I read it's his other ability that he has that has convicted you.

It would just say Flower visited

Alright enough with that.
I just can’t see Ratchet lying about this and putting himself into a dichotomy with Worst.

The dude was caught and then came up with uh I'm told if someone visits so nuh uh

Worst is 100% lying, for context it's my birthday today so I can't spend it defending myself, I've claimed most of my role. The only other parts are if I stay in the same location twice I learn everyone in that location and I can stop someone from "using offensive actions". Lastly I can refill. That's everything, full claim.

Can you full claim. Also these seem scummy lol

I ask you @Worst because of this post here. Where Flower says you feel like you are playing all sides.

no. Don't listen to flower

Yeah, I like my Serial read on Worst I think. The Location Passive, targeting 5 people in one night, the Limitation shit all fits a strong Indie role + I think if there’s indeed a hostile Indie who can kill they probably wouldn’t be limited by locations.

His flavour is probably Diavolo or Risotto Nero.

He'll no. Bad read. You think his game now is like when he was SK? Its not remotely close

 

[Jan]

did you guys rng it? to appear in the same area as me?

I went there as well!

I wanted to visit the dwarves and slay the mighty balrog in their mines!

 

[Fujishiro]

@MUUGEN has been replaced by @EkkoLoJinx​

 

[Flower]

Thank fuck. Can I play again now.

 

[Jan]

Damn, that was a quick divorce.

 

[MUUGEN]

Thank fuck. Can I play again now.

STFU

 

[Sallucion]

@MUUGEN Wtf :(

 

[Naomi]

 

[Jan]

Thank fuck. Can I play again now.

Did you hover over the game for the last hour, waiting for changes? :P

 

[Naomi]

this could have all been avoided if people just played to solve the game.


smh