General & Others The (non-existing) stakes in One Piece
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- blud was irrelevant for 99% of the manga, insert Yasu getting crucified.
- Itachi a villain
- Ace equivelent, though Ray will likely die too eventually so that might be more appropriate we'll see.
- Flashback deaths, insert the hundreds of OP characters who died in flashbacks
- Whitebeard equivalent
If including "fodder deaths" then OP is also just ahead by a landslide between Alabasta & Marineford.
But ya even ya had to list side characters, none of the Konoha youngins, no MC, no MC crew.
- Itachi a villain
- Ace equivelent, though Ray will likely die too eventually so that might be more appropriate we'll see.
- Flashback deaths, insert the hundreds of OP characters who died in flashbacks
- Whitebeard equivalent
If including "fodder deaths" then OP is also just ahead by a landslide between Alabasta & Marineford.
But ya even ya had to list side characters, none of the Konoha youngins, no MC, no MC crew.
Truth is it's hard to establish tension in fictions when you are already strongly established and not upcoming underdogs anymore.
Oda and the other writes tried to increase the stake by making enemies even more powerful and making MCs perpetual underdogs. This is overused in fictions nowadays
Even when plenty of side characters died in Wano people still felt lack of tension, mainly because readers know the establised power level and don't have emotional investment in side characters
None really cares if Gerd dies or not and we all know imu can easily kill Gerd.
What people really asking is killing or crippling a character that readers are emotionally invested, like the straw hats.
But people need to know this is often author's last resort or biggest trump card to maximize stake, usually reserved at the very end of the series like for example iron man at endgame.
We are still like 3 arc's away from ending and Oda simply couldn't afford killing any of straw hats yet, if he ever wanted to.
Oda and the other writes tried to increase the stake by making enemies even more powerful and making MCs perpetual underdogs. This is overused in fictions nowadays
Even when plenty of side characters died in Wano people still felt lack of tension, mainly because readers know the establised power level and don't have emotional investment in side characters
None really cares if Gerd dies or not and we all know imu can easily kill Gerd.
What people really asking is killing or crippling a character that readers are emotionally invested, like the straw hats.
But people need to know this is often author's last resort or biggest trump card to maximize stake, usually reserved at the very end of the series like for example iron man at endgame.
We are still like 3 arc's away from ending and Oda simply couldn't afford killing any of straw hats yet, if he ever wanted to.
Never forget
In particular, I think establishing that Killingham must be defeated through death at the hands of a conqueror, then giving him to the guy who kicks and hasn't unlocked the Haki prior, will not turn out well
True. Even if in Wano we had some death like Ashura Doji and Izou,still was probably too little,and Kiku got her arm back like it was nothing etc.
Now we know that Chopper will probably give Gaban his arm back,and already gave Gerd her fingers back.
There are no consequences in this manga,at least until the final battle
Now we know that Chopper will probably give Gaban his arm back,and already gave Gerd her fingers back.
There are no consequences in this manga,at least until the final battle
