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I hope Luffy goes full Nika / Joy Boy powerup this arc and defeats Imu right here, completely finishing the Nika / Joy Boy story.
Then Blackbeard shows up and takes Luffy's fruit completely away and we get a fruitless Luffy the rest of the story in his race against Blackbeard to become King of the Pirates.
Given how Absalom was killed for his own power and Burgess coming at Luffy with a dagger, the method they used to acquire DF's results in death.
 
Yeah, the God's Knight are really disapointing.
Even Shamrock with his doggy sword attack on Loki didn't look that impressive tbh
I think its because they fight Imu. The Holy Knights seem bum in comparison lol.

I suppose the food thing doesn't really heal said wounds, he's still fighting on despite them, which is at least better then dragging a fight out longer.
I just think it's a Shonen thrope.

Tbh Imu vs everyone drags too long already lol. Feels like FO-RE-VER.

I honestly have no idea where Oda is going with this.

I won't give a final verdict just yet. But based on spoilers, this chapter is the worst crap we've gotten in Elbaf so far.
I think Chopper will beat Imu lol./s/

Since even vs Luffy,Loki, Harjudin and Gaban, Imu seems just fine.

No but I like how much focus Chopper is getting. (Which cant be said about Usopp lol).
 
The manner in which Luffy was beaten was so brutal that he should’ve been in intensive care for a week. Oda went too far, he should’ve toned down the severity of his defeat. That would’ve made Luffy’s hasty return far more justifiable. But Oda seems more concerned with the spectacle of these moments than with the logic behind them. So, yes, people wouldn't be happy with any option, but that's on Oda here.
I suppose we'll have to wait for Imu to go away and then see how bad off he is after the adrenaline wears off. I imagine he should be waylaid for a while.
 
I doubt awakening a fruit which biggest pro is against devil fruits, will do alot against a non devil fruit user.
Or awakening the fruit has to be able to cancel out Haki aswell, which would make it broken beyond believe.
Well, to Awaken a DF, the user has to be in sync with the power itself. This is why Kaido couldn't, because the Azure Dragon is a entity for justice and he sure wasn't that.

For Blackbeard, it is a power of darkness. So how does one become one with that? I would have to say dying, with how darkness is equated with death. He has to put his life on the line and not fear it but embrace it.
 
That's kind of what I said, though. Because if that did indeed happen, then there would be complaints of being able to pull powers out of his ass and there's now no tension, etc.

I guess merely fighting on with said wounds and then have Chopper take care of him after the arc is probably the best option.
I wouldn't exactly call that an asspull. When I think of asspull's I usually think of off the wall shir with no possible way of predicting that was something thr character could do. Like, G2 (for example) isn't an asspull, because its something that when you think about it it makes sense Luffy could always have done. It was just a clever way of using the same abilities he always had, so if you wanted to you could definitely have predicted him being capable of something like that.

An asspull for me is more like.....I don't know, like how every single Itachi fight he pulled out some new ability that conveniently allowed him to perfectly deal with whatever problem he was facing. Even if he had no prior examples of using an ability like thar (for example, the giant fire sword somehow also being a Sealing Jutsu; despite Itachi never once in his life using another Sealing Jutsu, he just whipped one out in the one situation he needed it.). Or if it ran directly counter to all other examples of said ability he used (,"cough" Izanami being the only ocular genjutsu that doesn't need eye contact "cough").
 
I don't think people here would be happy with any option, truthfully. He's out of the fight for a while: He's a pussy. He uses some cartoon power to fix the wounds: Ass pull. The thing with food giving him stamina: No tension.

I suppose the food thing doesn't really heal said wounds, he's still fighting on despite them, which is at least better then dragging a fight out longer.
Personally I would have had Luffy just manipulate his body to close his wounds. He had basically perfect control over his body's form in G5, so that should totally work. Wouldn't fix anything permanently, would be similar enough to things other characters have done to not feel like too much of an asspull (like Doffy holding his body together with strings) and since would mean the wounds would STILL open up when Luffy fell out of G5, it would maintain a degree of tension.

If this is truly the work of his fruit—and, practically speaking, he's temporarily manipulating reality - then this is perfectly fine.

I simply don't like the idea that one of the greatest injuries inflicted by the main threat of this series, who lives for a thousand years and few people should understand his power, let alone fight it, can be nullified by food.

:josad::josad::josad:
 
They already looked like bums before Imu showed up
If anything, Gunko looked too good. But basically, with the exception of their own personal DF's, they are people who get their powers from someone else's own DF. It's not their own. So, frankly, they should be contemptible because they're really like the other World Nobles, just spoiled assholes.
 
If this is truly the work of his fruit—and, practically speaking, he's temporarily manipulating reality - then this is perfectly fine.

I simply don't like the idea that one of the greatest injuries inflicted by the main threat of this series, who lives for a thousand years and few people should understand his power, let alone fight it, can be nullified by food.

:josad::josad::josad:
Pew's wording is pretty vague as usual. Because "recovering" doesn't necessarily mean the two wounds magically seal back up, it could just be he's still fighting despite said wounds.

I think the raws are needed here.
 
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