Versus Battle Itachi and Kisame vs Scopper Gaban

[soupongo]

Fight takes place on Elbaf

 

[Doggo]

He makes sashimi out of kisame, uses future sight to avoid sharingam shenanigans, his acoc kamehameha pierces through itachi's susanoo.

EZ win.
mid diff.

 

[Sentinel]

Gaban creates a massacre and none of his opponents will even know how they got killed.

 

[soheilhazrat]

if we are giving free pass to gaban from genjutsu he negs

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Add entire Akatsuki and Gaban still low diffs...

 

[John Akainu]

Gaban gets the Jiraya treatment

 

[soupongo]

if we are giving free pass to gaban from genjutsu he negs

Itachi is allowed to use Genjutsu, but Gaban has the ability to use future sight. Up to you how you square that.

Add entire Akatsuki and Gaban still low diffs...

That seems like a bit of a reach lmao. Gaban hasn't shown the ability to deal with multiple fighters at once.

 

[Sentinel]

That seems like a bit of a reach lmao. Gaban hasn't shown the ability to deal with multiple fighters at once.

His spamming attack on Imu literally kills more than half of the cast with relative ease. Obito is a different thing since he's haxed. Maybe Itachi's Yata Mirror can stop it if he's fast enough to react.

 

[Cruxroux]

I don't like multi~verse battles.


There are so many buts and ifs.

 

[Sentinel]

I don't like multi~verse battles.


There are so many buts and ifs.

Well, you generate some basic rules, like no bullshit no limit fallacy arguments (Itachi's Yata Mirror is an example tbh), spiritual energy is often equalized to spare all the headache when it comes to reijatsu, chakra, haki and ki discussions... and characters usually start in a certain location, standing 30m to each other and whether they're in-character or not.

Unlike in verse discussions, multi verse battles are just judged by feats and legit statements.

 

[Cruxroux]

like no bullshit no limit fallacy arguments (Itachi's Yata Mirror is an example tbh),

You know Sharingan is a massive part of Itachi arsenal. Let alone that, we don't even know how Amaterasu would work on other verse character. Unless they have some absolute immunity to fire.

spiritual energy is often equalized to spare all the headache when it comes to reijatsu, chakra, haki and ki discussions

That's a problem in itself,
Even if they are equalised there properties are entirely different.
Chakra can disrupts the flow and break genjutsu, Idk if Haki can.
Chakra can used as Projection type material to avoid Amaterasu like Naruto did and even that was burned off.
Kisame has Samehada which sucks chakra of opponent and wielder alike, can it suck opponent haki too?

As I said too many buts and ifs to carry.

And if are taking only physical prowess in account in multiverse battle.
Itachi and Kisame are literally trained ninja with high Sensory skills or reaction speed without chakra. 1v1 CQC ninja's gets a easy win.

 

[soupongo]

His spamming attack on Imu literally kills more than half of the cast with relative ease. Obito is a different thing since he's haxed. Maybe Itachi's Yata Mirror can stop it if he's fast enough to react.

You don't think it's vice versa though? Sasori's poison, Deidara's explosives. That's not even getting into Nagato or Itachi, the entire Akatsuki would be too much for Gaban. This matchup is better imo.

 

[soupongo]

You know Sharingan is a massive part of Itachi arsenal. Let alone that, we don't even know how Amaterasu would work on other verse character. Unless they have some absolute immunity to fire.

Wdym we don't know? It would just burn them, I don't think Ameratsu is Chakara specific.

 

[Cruxroux]

Wdym we don't know? It would just burn them, I don't think Ameratsu is Chakara specific.

So what was the damn point of this match up when Itachi could literally one shot?

 

[soupongo]

So what was the damn point of this match up when Itachi could literally one shot?

Gaban has Future sight, I think he could avoid Ameratsu pretty easily.

 

[NikaInParis]

COC (or AdvCoC) should be granted the same ability as chakra sharing has in regards to breaking out of genjutsu i.e. if another person disrupts your chakra flow with their chakra while you're under genjutsu it will break you out

A CoC burst should be given the same advantage to even out the playing field.

I feel that even if Gaban foresaw Itachi using genjutsu it would still work due to some "you still saw my eyes in the future" bs

 

[Cruxroux]

Gaban has Future sight, I think he could avoid Ameratsu pretty easily.

I wish if that could help. But it won't.
Sharingan alone can predict range of motion.
Not exactly future sight but it's going to help given how fast Itachi himself is.

 

[RayanOO]

Gaban smokes them

 

[soupongo]

I wish if that could help. But it won't.
Sharingan alone can predict range of motion.
Not exactly future sight but it's going to help given how fast Itachi himself is.

So you think it's just Ameratsu GG?

Fair enough, but if even the Raikage can avoid that, I think a future sight user in Gaban should be able too

 

[Cruxroux]

So you think it's just Ameratsu GG?

Fair enough, but if even the Raikage can avoid that, I think a future sight user in Gaban should be able too

Yes Raikage did avoid that he was smart enough to get away from the direction of Amaterasu line.
But Sasuke still managed to tag Raikage with Amaterasu at point blank range. Not saying Itachi has Amaterasu control like Sasuke does.
But at point blank range there nothing even he could have done, gaara had to bail him out of there.