ancient jewish nationalism is similar but has distinct differences with zionism.

Primarily, judea was a majority jewish area that was conquered and occupied by an outside power that the judeans were trying to repel. Meanwhile with zionism, you had jews in diaspora trying to conquer the ancient jewish homeland--which is no longer jewish--from the arabs who had lived there for generations.

Maybe Jesus would support that. The Palestinian jews did ultimately end up allying with the zionists. But also, Jesus is honored by muslim and christian palestinians, whereas he is viewed as a false prophet in judaism. So idk what he would support.
Well in christianity Jesus is the one who gave that land to the jewish people so
 
Tbh all the Torah says is that the Jews will get the land at the very end. It does not promise that Jews will always have the land or even that they deserve to always have the land.

Moses literally states that if the Israelites sin, God will take the land away from them.

The haredim were probably right in some regard about Zionism. In Judaism, God is supposed to give the land to the Jews. They aren’t supposed to conquer it themselves. In fact there’s even a part of the Torah where Israelites attempt to take the land without God’s blessings and they get their ass beat.

In any case, I’m no antizionist. I wouldn’t support warfare against my people. But I do think religious Zionism is bogus. The state of Israel was created by men with guns, not God.
 
Tbh all the Torah says is that the Jews will get the land at the very end. It does not promise that Jews will always have the land or even that they deserve to always have the land.

Moses literally states that if the Israelites sin, God will take the land away from them.

The haredim were probably right in some regard about Zionism. In Judaism, God is supposed to give the land to the Jews. They aren’t supposed to conquer it themselves. In fact there’s even a part of the Torah where Israelites attempt to take the land without God’s blessings and they get their ass beat.

In any case, I’m no antizionist. I wouldn’t support warfare against my people. But I do think religious Zionism is bogus. The state of Israel was created by men with guns, not God.
God guided the jewish people to fight for it back then
 
Deuteronomy 31:1-8


And Moses went and spake these words unto all Israel.


2 And he said unto them, I am an hundred and twenty years old this day; I can no more go out and come in: also the Lord hath said unto me, Thou shalt not go over this Jordan.


3 The Lord thy God, he will go over before thee, and he will destroy these nations from before thee, and thou shalt possess them: and Joshua, he shall go over before thee, as the Lord hath said.


4 And the Lord shall do unto them as he did to Sihon and to Og, kings of the Amorites, and unto the land of them, whom he destroyed.


5 And the Lord shall give them up before your face, that ye may do unto them according unto all the commandments which I have commanded you.


6 Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the Lord thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.


7 And Moses called unto Joshua, and said unto him in the sight of all Israel, Be strong and of a good courage: for thou must go with this people unto the land which the Lord hath sworn unto their fathers to give them; and thou shalt cause them to inherit it.


8 And the Lord, he it is that doth go before thee; he will be with thee, he will not fail thee, neither forsake thee: fear not, neither be dismayed.
 
the talmud is more of a collection of discussions between scholars and their interpretations, not exactly a "holy book".
Actually that's why I wanted to read it, it sounded like ancient religious forum discussions, and it was pretty interesting to see it

Some rabbis would suggest some out there things lol, and other rabbis would say "Yeah but that doesn't make sense because of x verse"
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

"No... gonna steal it back..."
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1vxfg9q
The Supreme Court rigging the election Gore won, and Musk/Trump's obvious election interference in 2024, makes this not very surprising.

Similarly with dating, these terrorists cannot win unless they are cheating.

This is a clear fascist coup d'etat, targeting liberal voters who refuse to suck on a platform of Nein and 3 inches.

The Republicans have already rigged the mid-terms. They are the enemy within, and have elected to sell the US to the highest bidders.
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

"No... gonna steal it back..."
Follow the money, follow the bodies, follow the sex trail, and you'll find the truth.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1vxwomd
Canada is an amazing ally, fuck these traitorous pieces of shit for sucking up to genocidal apartheid states like Israel.

Canada is a great ally of the American people. Russia and Israel are rogue, cancerous states that have no allies, only accomplices.

Much love to Canada. Fuck fascism forever.

 
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