[FNZ] Salem of Lies Throne Of Lies: The WG War

Reborn

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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Zemmi said:
Why are you so defensive? I am just saying it's possible.

Use logic here. If I was MM, why would I try to save Galaxy? I tried over and over to tell y'all my results on them couldn't be wrong.
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I am not being defensive. I am simply speaking facts here.

I am the only one with verifiable claim. You know this very well.

As I said yesterday, maid claim can't be verified. It's very easy to pull as scum because they know who aren't unseen. Matching targets become easier especially with someone like shanks who was town read by many until bear claimed noble. Nothing against your play but maid role is very difficult to verify.
 
Zemmi

Zemmi

GodMommie
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#3,062
#3,062
Reborn said:
I am not being defensive. I am simply speaking facts here.

I am the only one with verifiable claim. You know this very well.

As I said yesterday, maid claim can't be verified. It's very easy to pull as scum because they know who aren't unseen. Matching targets become easier especially with someone like shanks who was town read by many until bear claimed noble. Nothing against your play but maid role is very difficult to verify.
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Yes I did verify you but that still doesn't mean they didn't convert you after. I don't know why you are arguing this? Are you saying it's impossible they would go after you someone unlikely to be watched/protected?

Trust me I understand very much how my role can't be verify. I haven't argued that once. But by my play alone you should know I am town, which it actually has me worried that you don't see that. I honestly think the pupose of my role is to be an easy mislynch, but I won't go down as town without a fight.
 
Reborn

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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#3,064
#3,064
Zemmi said:
Yes I did verify you but that still doesn't mean they didn't convert you after. I don't know why you are arguing this? Are you saying it's impossible they would go after you someone unlikely to be watched/protected?

Trust me I understand very much how my role can't be verify. I haven't argued that once. But by my play alone you should know I am town, which it actually has me worried that you don't see that. I honestly think the pupose of my role is to be an easy mislynch, but I won't go down as town without a fight.
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What makes you think conversion really happened last night?

I mean it goes without saying that if conversion fails on N1 then MM would try to convert on N2. So odds of conversion happening on N2 is as much as on N3.

We simply don't know when actually conversion happened.
 
Zemmi

Zemmi

GodMommie
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Reborn said:
What makes you think conversion really happened last night?

I mean it goes without saying that if conversion fails on N1 then MM would try to convert on N2. So odds of conversion happening on N2 is as much as on N3.

We simply don't know when actually conversion happened.
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We don't know and that is why you should understand why I said, I can only confirm your ability last night, very much like I did when you first used it so they wouldn't waste time on pushing you when I knew at least when you used your ability you were still town.
 
Reborn

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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Zemmi said:
@Reborn sincerely though I'm not trying to be mean, if you really are still town. You should be looking for scum with me and not trying to go for an easy mislynch on me.
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I haven't even tried to push you yet.

I am waiting to see what others will claim to eliminate people before making a case for anyone
 
Zemmi

Zemmi

GodMommie
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Reborn said:
I haven't even tried to push you yet.

I am waiting to see what others will claim to eliminate people before making a case for anyone
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Honestly, I don't even think they care about what abilities players have or anything right now because all they have to do is get a mislynch on me which they believe is already set up. But they probably should've picked someone else if they thought I would be easy to get rid of.
 
Reborn

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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#3,068
Zemmi said:
We don't know and that is why you should understand why I said, I can only confirm your ability last night, very much like I did when you first used it so they wouldn't waste time on pushing you when I knew at least when you used your ability you were still town.
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I am fine with you not trusting me lol


I am not fine with having you as king because I simply can't verify your claim. And, a game which relies heavily on mechanics, thread play isn't enough

It's not about you or me... anyone with verifiable claim as town should be sitting on the throne. It could be anyone and not necessarily you and me.
 
Zemmi

Zemmi

GodMommie
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Reborn said:
I am fine with you not trusting me lol


I am not fine with having you as king because I simply can't verify your claim. And, a game which relies heavily on mechanics, thread play isn't enough

It's not about you or me... anyone with verifiable claim as town should be sitting on the throne. It could be anyone and not necessarily you and me.
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That's the problem, no one is verfiable anymore? Why don't you see that? I know I'm town but I have no idea what people are converted.

And I guess, if you are still town you feel the same frustration I do.
 
Reborn

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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#3,070
Zemmi said:
That's the problem, no one is verfiable anymore? Why don't you see that? I know I'm town but I have no idea what people are converted.

And I guess, if you are still town you feel the same frustration I do.
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Yes no can be trusted anymore but we can still gauge the play based on intent.

Once conversion happens, what changes the most is the intent of play and this is something one can pick based on what kind of targets one picks for actions.
 
Reborn

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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And, even if we can't trust anyone but it's very likely that conversions did happen on either of first 2 nights.

This means based on two days play we can pick on MM and a culted player can be picked based on actions consistency
 
Ali v2

Ali v2

No regret, yet, every regret.
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INDIES OF THE WORLD .... GATHER!
I HEREBY ANNOUNCE THE COUP AGAINST THE WRETCHED TOWN
WRECK HAVOCC AND SAY DOWN TO THE SYSTEM!
OPEN WOLFING ALI ARC IS HERE!
I CALL UPON THEE, INDIES, NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!!
LET US CHANGE THE RULES OF THE GAME
THE HUNTED IS NOW THE HUNTER
THE HUNTER IS NOW .. THE HUNTED
YOU WILL NO LONGER BE OPPRESSED
YOU HOLD THE POWER!

NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!
NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!
NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!

@Saber @York @AL sama @Naomi ​
 
Zemmi

Zemmi

GodMommie
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#3,073
Ali v2 said:
INDIES OF THE WORLD .... GATHER!
I HEREBY ANNOUNCE THE COUP AGAINST THE WRETCHED TOWN
WRECK HAVOCC AND SAY DOWN TO THE SYSTEM!
OPEN WOLFING ALI ARC IS HERE!
I CALL UPON THEE, INDIES, NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!!
LET US CHANGE THE RULES OF THE GAME
THE HUNTED IS NOW THE HUNTER
THE HUNTER IS NOW .. THE HUNTED
YOU WILL NO LONGER BE OPPRESSED
YOU HOLD THE POWER!

NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!
NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!
NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!

@Saber @York @AL sama @Naomi ​
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WTF not possilbe because you were compatible with Yoho.
 
Reborn

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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#3,079
#3,079
Zemmi said:
Are you MM? And bussed Ratchet?
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I doubt he's MM.

If I remember well then he whispered his role to charlie and Saber on D1. Another thing is Ratchet was inactive on D1 and there was absolutely no sus on him until Ali came out with the result and outed Ratchet. Ali could be a culted one.

Now, there's another angle that Ratchet was busy and he sacrificed himself but I don't think anyone would sacrifice Ratchet on D2.


As far their unseen numbers are concerned then their number caps at 3. They can't have more than 3 members at a time.
 
York

York

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#3,080
#3,080
Ali v2 said:
INDIES OF THE WORLD .... GATHER!
I HEREBY ANNOUNCE THE COUP AGAINST THE WRETCHED TOWN
WRECK HAVOCC AND SAY DOWN TO THE SYSTEM!
OPEN WOLFING ALI ARC IS HERE!
I CALL UPON THEE, INDIES, NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!!
LET US CHANGE THE RULES OF THE GAME
THE HUNTED IS NOW THE HUNTER
THE HUNTER IS NOW .. THE HUNTED
YOU WILL NO LONGER BE OPPRESSED
YOU HOLD THE POWER!

NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!
NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!
NOW IS THE TIME!!!!!

@Saber @York @AL sama @Naomi ​
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You bussed Ratchet instead of letting me get lynched? I oughta PR you a second time
 
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