Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1192 Spoilers Discussion

[Sir Yasheen]

Imu is the earth gods incarnation, the earth god was the devil and was enslaving humanity.

This is your headcanon about the story. I get that. But I’m just saying maybe we do have more to learn about what happens after Imu is defeated.

 

[sparrow210]

 

[Sugoi]

Garling cannot defy his orders, we saw with Harald that they cannot even will themselves into going against Imu. The pact rewrites their minds.

All this won't matter when imu is returned weak/knocked out, hence why garling wanted him to go and get beaten up first

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Fighting≠defeating.

They’re fighting with the intent of defeating Imu because as long as he’s up their friends in Elbaf are in danger.

If at this point Imu returns to mariejoa do you expect Luffy to just say “Well, I’ll take care of that later”

 

[Fujishiro]

This is your headcanon about the story. I get that. But I’m just saying maybe we do have more to learn about what happens after Imu is defeated.

It’s headcanon, just like your saying “because Usopp said this Imu will lose here” headcanon.

Just because a character says something doesn’t mean that thing becomes true in OP.

 

[Fujishiro]

All this won't matter when imu is returned weak/knocked out, hence why garling wanted him to go and get beaten up first

Venusjuro was also fine with him going. I guess he’s a traitor too.

 

[Topi Jerami]

What’s the point of Sommers highlighting that Imus body cannot take being outside the world for long if not to introduce a timer for him to having to retreat?

The point is Oda is highlighting, if time up happens and Imu is forced to teleport back instead of going back on his own will, there will be consequence.

the point is so he has to return so garling can kill him and take over

Garling is Blackbeard's victim
If Blackbeard fails to kill Imu right after Elbaf, the real casualty from Imu's side will be Garling

 

[Fujishiro]

They’re fighting with the intent of defeating Imu because as long as he’s up their friends in Elbaf are in danger.

If at this point Imu returns to mariejoa do you expect Luffy to just say “Well, I’ll take care of that later”

But here is the thing, he won’t be able to stay on Elbaph for too long.

Yes, I think this arc is to establish a personal reason for Luffy want to go after the WG.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It’s headcanon, just like your saying “because Usopp said this Imu will lose here” headcanon.

Just because a character says something doesn’t mean that thing becomes true in OP.

It doesn’t. But Usopp confirming that Luffy is fighting here with the intent to defeat Imu is clear narrative that this fight won’t end with the straw hats escaping like many assumed

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

Remember Toki was also 800 years old and she didn't do shit


Imu being 800 years old doesn't mean anything

Harashima.....
Toki isn't 800 years old lol

 

[Sir Yasheen]

But here is the thing, he won’t be able to stay on Elbaph for too long.

Yes, I think this arc is to establish a personal reason for Luffy want to go after the WG.

Do you think Luffy and Loki will sit back and watch as Imu creates his summoning circle to teleport away?

 

[Fujishiro]

It doesn’t. But Usopp confirming that Luffy is fighting here with the intent to defeat Imu is clear narrative that this fight won’t end with the straw hats escaping like many assumed

We didn’t need confirmation from Usopp that Luffy is intending to defeat Imu here, doesn’t mean it’ll happen lmao.

My headcanon is that they will lose but Imu will have to leave.

 

[Fujishiro]

Do you think Luffy and Loki will sit back and watch as Imu creates his summoning circle to teleport away?

They will be on the brink of defeat. So yeah.

 

[WaidoWSC]

They will be on the brink of defeat. So yeah.

Does Imu‘s performance in an alleged stronger form inspire you with hope, that he will push them into brink of defeat?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

We didn’t need confirmation from Usopp that Luffy is intending to defeat Imu here, doesn’t mean it’ll happen lmao.

My headcanon is that they will lose but Imu will have to leave.

I doubt they’re losing imo. This arc seems like it ends with Imus loss either by retreat or by defeat.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Oda definitely has begun rushing the ending of this arc. Ussop randomly appearing out of nowhere to continue his brave warrior arc is a bit lazy and honestly action has been straight up boring.

I hate to admit it, but I don't like how boring G5s combat have been. I was on board with Oda using the awakening to give Luffy free wheeling combat. But SOMEHOW Luffy's fighting style feels way more lazy and uninteresting than when his fruit was just the Gum Gum Fruit. It's ridiculous. He needs to do better than this. I was expecting combat crazier than Luffy's Gear 4 Snakeman Culverins, but I've been let down everytime since lol. Luffy literally peaked at G4.

@Sentinel @Elder Lee Hung @kekaro

 

[Fujishiro]

Does Imu‘s performance in an alleged stronger form inspire you with hope, that he will push them into brink of defeat?

Remember when base Imu was punched by base Luffy only to negg him in his strongest form a chapter later? This is just a rinse and repeat scenario.

Each chapter ends with Imu getting hit by something and then the next chapter he does something.

 

[Fujishiro]

I doubt they’re losing imo. This arc seems like it ends with Imus loss either by retreat or by defeat.

Yeah Imu will retreat so it will be a loss. He won’t have achieved his objective of taking over Elbaph.

 

[WaidoWSC]

Remember when base Imu was punched by base Luffy only to negg him in his strongest form a chapter later? This is just a rinse and repeat scenario.

Each chapter ends with Imu getting hit by something and then the next chapter je does something.

This is now chapter 2 of Imu being in a new form and the thing is, he hasn‘t done anything offensively.

The Luffy intro moment was just as we always said a narrative hype up moment.

It looks like Loki and Luffy are getting stronger, while Imu is getting weaker rather than becoming more powerful

 

[Fujishiro]

Oda is padding for chapter 1200.