Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1193 Spoilers Discussion

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Put another person at Haralds level or below without regen and they get fucked. Thats what I meant.

I terms of Power Loki> HK Harald.
Even then we don’t know when Harald brought his mind back to him. It could be after the first attack or after the entire assault.

We need to see hybrid Lokis power soon. See how much it boosts non hybrid Loki who currently has been outperformed by old Gaban.
 

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Even then we don’t know when Harald brought his mind back to him. It could be after the first attack or after the entire assault.

We need to see hybrid Lokis power soon. See how much it boosts non hybrid Loki who currently has been outperformed by old Gaban.
The burden of proof is on you.

Non Hybrid has been dealing with form 2 Imu, thats better then anything Gaban has done vs form 1 Imu.
 
Still denying reality?

That was Harald a few pages after they cut his leg. He was such in danger he proceeded to ignore them diff and continue his massacre while they admitted their powerlessness in stopping him.
Imagine you blindside your opponent while he's busy in 1 vs 100 and he still ignores you afterward lol, if I was a Shanks/Gaban fan I would NEVER bring this fight again out of shame.
Wouldn't be surprised if they ended up defeated from the collateral damage of Harald swinging toward their direction
Honestly now that I think about it that wasn't much different from Robin vs Sommers, where she managed to snap Sommers neck and all but it ended up being ineffective and he proceed to ignore her to continue his speech, neg diffing her ass the moment he grew tired of her shit.
Likewise, Shanks and Gaban snuck Harald while he was 1 vs 100 his elite soldiers, proceed to ignore them while continuing his massacre, to end up collateral neg diffing them once he got bored.
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Still denying reality?

That was Harald a few pages after they cut his leg. He was such in danger he proceeded to ignore them diff and continue his massacre while they admitted their powerlessness in stopping him.
Imagine you blindside your opponent while he's busy in 1 vs 100 and he still ignores you afterward lol, if I was a Shanks/Gaban fan I would NEVER bring this fight again out of shame.
Wouldn't be surprised if they ended up defeated from the collateral damage of Harald swinging toward their direction
The cope is legendary lol, making shit up about how Saint Shanks and Gaban could have finished Harald off at any moment despite being unable to even land a single hit on him that wasn’t a sneak attack and getting beat within an inch of their life by distracted Harald lmfao

“They were waiting on Loki so they didn’t have to kill Harald” how did that work out again LOL, Loki proved it was possible to beat the Imu out of Harald while Saint Shanks and Gaban wondered helplessly about how to free Harald from Imu’s control.

It’s also headcanon that Saint Shanks and Gaban could have killed Harald even knowing about his heart lol, I don’t like to use that argument really but it is unproven that they could have killed him even if they knew about his heart seeing as how distracted Harald was effortlessly dominating them lol

Yep this whole hysteria is people ignoring this manga trying to save face about how hilariously wrong their takes are lmfao. Base Harald is above any Pirate of the last 30 years let alone HK Harald. The only Pirate of the last 40 years who can claim to be Harald’s equal is Xebec, unless you consider Loki a Pirate since Loki beat the Imu out of HK Harald lol.
 
Harald was using a CoC shield just like Xebec, before he regained his sense he was using it as per Gabans comment on HK with CoC being a pain in the ass. And he still got overpowered.
Wasn't he amplifying his regen with CoC instead of the CoC defence? Every attack Gaban & Shanks landed seemed to cut him up just fine, it's just that Harald wasn't getting exhausted and his regen wasn't slowing down, aka the opposite of what Gaban expected to happen.
 
“They were waiting on Loki so they didn’t have to kill Harald”
This argument is particularly funny cause it means Shanks and Gaban are such massive bitches they forced a son to kill his father because they didn't have the guts to do it themselves lol (even though they apparently totally could if they wanted). Is it really supposed to be a good defense of their characters?
Also dozens of giants must have died from "waiting", good job!
 
Both fought form 1 Imu. Gaban did better. Significantly better.

Loki has done nothing against form 2 Imu except for a combination attack with Luffy.
This one combo attack is way stronger than anything Gaban can do. It broke through a named shield from form 2 Imu. And Loki‘s power did most of the damage tbh, y’all can see it visually lmfao. It’s clear that Loki was just holding back the entire time against form 1 Imu while Gaban went all-out. Loki can dish out this much power even in base. Now he’s about to go hybrid, and it’s still in silhouette LMFAO
 

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This argument is particularly funny cause it means Shanks and Gaban are such massive bitches they forced a son to kill his father because they didn't have the guts to do it themselves lol (even though they apparently totally could if they wanted).
I don’t think @HeroesNZ and his ilk have thought about what they are arguing at all lmfao.

They totally could have killed Harald, but also they were so emotionally weak they had to force Harald’s son to kill his own father

Being a Woki hater sounds legit exhausting lmfao
 
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